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murphy88 08-07-2012 05:06 AM

Traction Control Kicks in After Gear Change
 
Hi guys,

Looking for advice on a problem that is beginning to ruin my 370 experience

Whenever I downshift to one of the lower 3 gears, 3rd to 2nd for example, the traction control kicks in when I step on the gas and I'm left with no power for a split second until the 'slip' light goes off.

This happens even when it is bone dry on the roads and it is making me concerned about nipping out quickly at junctions or changing down to overtake quickly.

Could this be down to my shoddy clutch control or does it sound like a fault that I should be consulting my dealer about? I tried a quick test earlier and waited a good couple of seconds between changing gears and stepping on the gas and it still happened and I think that rules out my dodgy footwork.

This is particularly frustrating as I had no such problems with my old rx8 when I could throw it into any gear at any speed and get access to the power instantly.

Any advice would be much appreciated

Cheers

Steven

raymondo510 08-07-2012 05:56 AM

Well if you have the VDC on and your taking a fast turn while givin it gas the VDC will interupt the power output which is what its suppost to do if I am not mistaken. NOW if you have the VDC OFF and try it now thats a different story, just be careful when taking fast turns with it off cuz many people have learned the hardway...

TerribleONE 08-07-2012 06:06 AM

7AT or 6MT? are you rev matching..? could be dropping to many gears and not rev matching causing the tires to lock up a little bit..

USMCASA 08-07-2012 06:09 AM

what kind of tires are you running?

murphy88 08-07-2012 06:59 AM

Ok, just to provide a bit more info on this in response to the questions so far:

- It's a manual transmission
- I'm currently running brand new Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta tyres (although this still happpened when I was running the stock Bridgestones)
- SynchroRev is on
- I'm not detecting any wheelspin at all. I get some if I try to pull off too quick in first but this feels different. I'd rather not drive around with VDC off and it's not something that happened at all with my old rx8, although I appreciate I now have more power under the hood.

Any more thoughts based on the above?

Gauge 08-07-2012 07:32 AM

Mine does this too. It honestly feels like the clutch slipping when it happens. But I don't think that can be possible on a car with only 3k miles.

The VDC kicks in and the wheels ARE NOT slipping. Hasn't happened in awhile but then I haven't beat on it in awhile. I also use synchro rev. This happens when shifting a single gear.

murphy88 08-07-2012 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gauge (Post 1857233)
Mine does this too. It honestly feels like the clutch slipping when it happens. But I don't think that can be possible on a car with only 3k miles.

The VDC kicks in and the wheels ARE NOT slipping. Hasn't happened in awhile but then I haven't beat on it in awhile. I also use synchro rev. This happens when shifting a single gear.

I'm glad to hear that i'm not the only one.

Is this something I should be raising with my dealership? I had a problem with the gearbox and, not knowing much about the mechanics of a car, i attributed it to that. However, the gearbox was replaced under warranty and the problem still exists.

Gauge - Is this something you have spoken to your dealer about?

whoady4shoady 08-07-2012 08:40 AM

Its normal. The VDC in this car blows! it is way to intrusive. Its ok for daily driving, but it must be turned off to experience the true performance of the Z IMHO. I wouldnt turn it off when driving around other traffic though. Be very careful.

kenchan 08-07-2012 08:53 AM

Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta wow, that's a mouthful. lol

get some pilot supersports.

snea 08-07-2012 08:59 AM

It's very sensitive, but mine usually kicks in while quickly taking off and making a turn (maybe slightly more if turning right.), rather than during straight acceleration. I'm guessing the car is trying to keep me from ending up like the Lamborghini guy.

murphy88 08-07-2012 09:13 AM

When I'm cornering, when it's wet or slick or when I get wheelspin if setting off too quick, I expect the VDC to kick in.

Putting the foot down in second in a straight line shortly after changing gear, I don't expect VDC to kick in.

I occassionally turn it off when its safe to but I do expect to be able to put the foot down in a straight line and accelerate smoothly when it's bone dry and there's no wheel spin.

Whats the point in the SynchroRev system if there's no power to be had after changing gears. If my gear changes in my old rx8 where sloppy I'd get shift shock and it would kick in and I expect this. I'm now driving a car where shift shock has been almost eliminated by a very clever rev matching system and I can't put my foot down?

kenchan 08-07-2012 09:36 AM

i think you need to get use to the car.

i have no issue mashing the gas into 2nd gear at WOT. no slipping no VDC (since i turn it off).
and let's not compare to a rx8. those things dont have much power. it reminded me of a prelude.

cossie1600 08-07-2012 09:56 AM

buy better tires

murphy88 08-07-2012 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1857446)
buy better tires

It's nothing to do with the tyres, there's no wheelspin and no loss of traction.

The Vred's are infinitely better than the piss poor stock Potenzas

murphy88 08-07-2012 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1857396)
i think you need to get use to the car.

i have no issue mashing the gas into 2nd gear at WOT. no slipping no VDC (since i turn it off).
and let's not compare to a rx8. those things dont have much power. it reminded me of a prelude.

I'm happy to accept that my technique might need tweaking but I feel that the VDC is way too sensitive


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