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dirTy_shoeZ 07-28-2012 07:50 PM

NA 370z on e85
 
well i figured you guys would like to see, JMS racing out of san antonio put the Z on e85 with just stillen gen 3 intakes, amuse y-pipe, amuse r1 titan, and uprev with e85 (stock cats and stock headers)

we were having issues with the rpm reading to get an accurate tq curve but before the spike it would be around 264 ft lb's and made 323 whp.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...t/ffcbb97b.jpg

next weekend we should be putting on the long tubes and we will go back and see what happens none the less the car feels geat but I am unaware of what other people see with these mods on 93 octane. please fill free to chime in.

DYNO VIDEO: click stupid picture lol

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...h_0e1126ce.jpg

SS_Firehawk 07-29-2012 10:47 AM

On a dynojet I would generally put that setup at around 300 whp, Pushing 323 is impressive with a fuel change. Surprising as I just did a tune and had to take out 3 degrees of timing with 91. Are you running stock injectors?

dirTy_shoeZ 07-29-2012 12:40 PM

Thank you, I changed the fuel over to id1000's and changed the fuel pump to a 255, I had a 400 but it was to large for the tank for a simple drop in and would've needed an external regulater going that size.

When we tuned mine in the past it was on 93 and when Jorge tuned it he said it generally didn't like timing and would make more power when backing the timing back out after advancing it. But with the ethanol since it burns so much cooler was able to take more timing without breaking a sweat.

Kingbaby 07-29-2012 12:48 PM

Any details on the process!

Megan370z 07-29-2012 12:51 PM

thats making me think about doing the switch !!

I cant wait to see the result with the long tube header !! (which one ? )

the 308whp STD on a dynojet is pretty much where it should with your current mods
a gain of 14-15 whp is quite nice to see ! :)

Boost_lee 07-29-2012 03:07 PM

Good stuff Mike. I'm surprised to see the gains on E85, badass.

Just as reference, I only put down 300/256 on 93, same dyno. Jorge had the same issue and pulled back the timing a bit to make power.

red6spd 07-29-2012 03:49 PM

In for updates with mods. Would deff do the change if it makes some decent power. Thant and E85 is a good dollar cheaper then Premium over here.

fhebert8 07-29-2012 04:04 PM

New to the Site
 
Great to see you guys are using E85

That is one of the reasons I just Joined this site , and to see if should try to teach those Mustangs a lesson , or just leave them alone , there are
several in my area ,,


I just purchased a 370Z Roadster , Manual 6 speed , I am 53 years old


I really think Ethanol cannot hurt my car , Just wondering if I can run it
without advancing the timing ? or doing anything ,,

Should I try one of those Chips ? thinking about installing those Stillen high
flow converters ,, just something simple that will not void the warantee yet
only 200 miles on the Black Roadster

So Just saying Hi ,, lots more to tell you about the Ethanol ,, just not sure
who is here yet ,,

Thanks
Fred

fhebert8 07-29-2012 04:05 PM

ok that was 2000 miles
 
thanks

Jordo! 07-29-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 1843789)
On a dynojet I would generally put that setup at around 300 whp, Pushing 323 is impressive with a fuel change. Surprising as I just did a tune and had to take out 3 degrees of timing with 91. Are you running stock injectors?

:iagree:

Yeah, that's a nice gain. What was it SAE and what was the actual CF used for STD?

Can we run E85 with stock fuel pump and injectors?

Damn... now I want to retune for E85... although not even sure where to get it in FL...

SS_Firehawk 07-29-2012 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhebert8 (Post 1844152)
Great to see you guys are using E85

That is one of the reasons I just Joined this site , and to see if should try to teach those Mustangs a lesson , or just leave them alone , there are
several in my area ,,


I just purchased a 370Z Roadster , Manual 6 speed , I am 53 years old


I really think Ethanol cannot hurt my car , Just wondering if I can run it
without advancing the timing ? or doing anything ,,

Should I try one of those Chips ? thinking about installing those Stillen high
flow converters ,, just something simple that will not void the warantee yet
only 200 miles on the Black Roadster

So Just saying Hi ,, lots more to tell you about the Ethanol ,, just not sure
who is here yet ,,

Thanks
Fred

Anything newer than a 2010 will need the full standard set of bolt ons. Those include full exhaust, headers / testpipes / HFC's, intakes, pulley (if you condone it), flywheel (might as well upgrade your clutch at that point), and a tune. Gears are an option as well. That would put you on par performance wise and should be running away from them, but the lightest mods on them will tip in their favor.

Back on topic, how much did the objectors and fuel pump run you?

dirTy_shoeZ 07-29-2012 08:31 PM

The injectors will run anyone around 450-750 depending on what u want, I ran ID1000's and the pump is a standard 100 dollar walbro 225. It was nothing more than installing that and putting news new o-ring and hose, then of course u need a tune.

I'd say no to running ethanol on stock pump and injectors. I dont know about the pump itself but definitely not injectors

ScGRaceR 07-29-2012 09:56 PM

in for updates... e85 is local to me now

seymore4 07-29-2012 10:23 PM

saw that on facebook, looks good..

Jordo! 07-29-2012 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirTy_shoeZ (Post 1844444)
The injectors will run anyone around 450-750 depending on what u want, I ran ID1000's and the pump is a standard 100 dollar walbro 225. It was nothing more than installing that and putting news new o-ring and hose, then of course u need a tune.

I'd say no to running ethanol on stock pump and injectors. I dont know about the pump itself but definitely not injectors

Okay, that makes sense. I thought E85 was corrosive. I missed where you said that you had picked up new injectors and pump.

That's a very tempting modification.


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