Whats normal operating oil temps without an oil cooler?

Here in AZ, during normal commuting/city driving, with the 2012 factory oil cooler, I ran about 230-235 normally. (Ambient air temp about 108-113).

With the Z1 Motorsports 34 row cooler, same driving conditions and elimination of the factory cooler, I am seeing 195-205 normally. Enough of a reduction to greatly mitigate the ECU driven power loss due to heat...

thx!:tiphat:

If you are averaging 3.5k a year you are ok once a year but I'd check the level... some 2010s burn oil as well.

Everyone is so worried about spending extra $$$ here yet we are driving cars where a tank of gas costs more than an oil change...
Be as conservative with your maintenance as you want but I can tell you one thing... the people that follow the maintenance requirements won't be hassled by Nissan or any other manufacturer if god forbid they have a major component failure.

Is it really worth it to save yourself say around $75 a year (2 changes of Mobil 1 plus filter)? I spend that every other week in gas.

I last changed my oil in Dec '11 and I just checked itthis past weekend...and everything looked fine, but I will check it very often. Thanks.

I'm not saying that I shouldn't check my oil.

I'm saying that I shouldn't have to check my oil in order to prevent it from exploding.

There is a service bulletin, I came in with symptoms on that bulletin; the first thing they should have done is check the oil level.

I brought the car to them because I didn't want to bother with it. I was willing to pay any amount of money to fix the problem before it worsened.

I wasn't aware of the car consuming oil like that until after I found the service bulletin. Now you'll be damn sure that I check often.
All i knew was the oil ran hot in these cars.

I don't have the time or space to deal with maintenance on my car all the time. I do my oil changes, fluid changes, etc but when it comes to things having problems, i take it in. I can't be spending days trying to pinpoint problems.

I used to have time troubleshoot issues on my own and actually I did come here to find a resolution before I went to the dealership.

Also I haven't been called one time since I brought the car in. I'm without a car and I have idea why the engine did what it did. After I called him on saturday all he said is that I need to show oil records and wouldn't give me any more information.

I agree with what your saying but almost every every instance of engine failure do to oil consumption is because the person never checks their oil.

Man this whole thing just ******* sucks.

Maybe I just need to trade it in for an Altima. :/

Engine failure due to oil consumption is due to oil consumption.

No its not. I understand that if it was not for the consumption issue your engine would not use the excessive amount of oil, but if you check your oil on a normal basis you will (A) Catch the problem early and (B) avoided complete engine failure. Mazda RX8's are known to use oil and its considered normal. So if you do not check your oil often and your motor fails its your own fault.

That's illegal.

Engine failure avoidance can be attributed to checking oil on a regular basis.

Everyone happy now?

:D

Haha, indeed.

My only point is that "regular" oil checking denotes a car that isn't consuming close to two quarts of oil per thousand miles, like my car now.

I wouldn't say that going two thousand miles without checking the oil is "irregular". Then again, I average about 2k miles/month, so the miles tend to fly by.

Sorry again
 

Its still shyt no matter.