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UNKNOWN_370 04-08-2012 11:30 AM

MISHIMOTO new 370z specific oil cooler w/video
 
I got an e-mail from mishimoto about there brand new oil cooler. Looks like a quality piece. Some people make fun of them for having a fake japanese name and not really being JDM, but me personally, the pricing is always competitive, the parts are very high quality and the warranty is unbeatable so I get "some" mishimoto parts... check this out.

Nissan 370Z, 2009+ / Infiniti G37, 2008+ (Coupe only) Oil Cooler Kit, by Mishimoto

The install Video

Nissan 370Z, 2009+ / Infiniti G37, 2008+ (Coupe only) Oil Cooler Kit Installation Video - YouTube

O&G 04-09-2012 01:56 PM

I've seen 9 Mishimoto radiators fail, 2 thermostats and their oil catch cans do nothing! They do make a damn good silicon hose though!

O&G 04-09-2012 01:59 PM

On a side note, they will send you a new one, no questions asked. Their warranty is good.

Dark Sarcasm 04-09-2012 02:30 PM

installs in 11 minutes, according to the video.

daisuke149 04-09-2012 02:46 PM

for 600$ and the size that the cooler is (19 row) ... dont think its worth it. The z1 cooler at 25 row is cheaper by 62$ and the z1 cooler has been rock solid for countless people on here.

Mishimoto 04-09-2012 07:03 PM

Hi All,

O&G - Product failure is an unfortunate necessary with any manufactured product. Our warranty rate is well below industry standard. We wouldn't be able to stand behind our product with a lifetime warranty if our defect rate was above normal.

Regarding the oil cooler - There is more to the solution than the # of rows. Surface area, fin density and other factors play a role in the cooling capability. Take a look at our engineering report on this product. If you have any questions regarding the product, feel free to let us know.

http://site.mishimoto.com/pr/Mishimo...-TechSpecs.pdf

Dark Sarcasm - I'm assuming that you are being sarcastic. :) The video is condensed. The product should install in under an hour.

Best,

Mishimoto

UNKNOWN_370 04-11-2012 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mishimoto (Post 1649763)
Hi All,

O&G - Product failure is an unfortunate necessary with any manufactured product. Our warranty rate is well below industry standard. We wouldn't be able to stand behind our product with a lifetime warranty if our defect rate was above normal.

Regarding the oil cooler - There is more to the solution than the # of rows. Surface area, fin density and other factors play a role in the cooling capability. Take a look at our engineering report on this product. If you have any questions regarding the product, feel free to let us know.

http://site.mishimoto.com/pr/Mishimo...-TechSpecs.pdf

Dark Sarcasm - I'm assuming that you are being sarcastic. :) The video is condensed. The product should install in under an hour.

Best,

Mishimoto


I'm glad you posted that report. Now I'm sadly going to have to agree with some of the comments posted on here. The Z heats up under pressure. According to your research report, you tested the 370z in ambient temps of 65degrees to 72degrees. Then you drove on a highway doing 50mph. If I drive like this in my Z without an oil cooler I won't break 190 for a temp. In temps over 90 I won't break 220. Honestly that testing wouldn't even prove the cooler works.
A good way to test the oil cooler without being on the track to doing like 10; 0-60 sprints. You will watch your gauge go up high to 250degrees plus.
19 rows may help for daily driving under normal conditions but, you wrote in your report that this cooler was to be design to work both on the street and the track. I do think mishimoto build quality is comparable to the other, more established brands, but on this oil cooler, you may want to test it in 90 degree testing under more duress. Also $600 is very pricey for a 19 row cooler. I didn't realize it was 19 rows. It looked large enough to be a 25 or 34 row. Sorry.
Maybe you guys may want to do more testing and consider a higher row cooler?

Philipp 04-12-2012 01:39 PM

I have the "generic" Mishimoto oil cooler since 2 years. Was cheap and it still works great!

Mishimoto 04-12-2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1653085)
I'm glad you posted that report. Now I'm sadly going to have to agree with some of the comments posted on here. The Z heats up under pressure. According to your research report, you tested the 370z in ambient temps of 65degrees to 72degrees. Then you drove on a highway doing 50mph. If I drive like this in my Z without an oil cooler I won't break 190 for a temp. In temps over 90 I won't break 220. Honestly that testing wouldn't even prove the cooler works.
A good way to test the oil cooler without being on the track to doing like 10; 0-60 sprints. You will watch your gauge go up high to 250degrees plus.
19 rows may help for daily driving under normal conditions but, you wrote in your report that this cooler was to be design to work both on the street and the track. I do think mishimoto build quality is comparable to the other, more established brands, but on this oil cooler, you may want to test it in 90 degree testing under more duress. Also $600 is very pricey for a 19 row cooler. I didn't realize it was 19 rows. It looked large enough to be a 25 or 34 row. Sorry.
Maybe you guys may want to do more testing and consider a higher row cooler?

Again, the core size is not the deciding factor of cooling efficiency. I have not seen any other data supporting any other products available on the internet. If you have the ability to collect data and are interested in testing this in more extreme conditions we would be happy to sell this to you at a discounted price. Unfortunately we cannot control ambient air temperatures during our testing. I can tell you we have this on our supercharged 370Z and I personally drove it under rough conditions in 80 degree weather and the temps stayed static. Unfortunately that car is located in California, and our engineering facility is located in Delaware (so we were unable to get data).

A great deal of the cooling efficiency is airflow. We've strategically placed this for optimal airflow.

UNKNOWN_370 04-13-2012 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mishimoto (Post 1658611)
Again, the core size is not the deciding factor of cooling efficiency. I have not seen any other data supporting any other products available on the internet. If you have the ability to collect data and are interested in testing this in more extreme conditions we would be happy to sell this to you at a discounted price. Unfortunately we cannot control ambient air temperatures during our testing. I can tell you we have this on our supercharged 370Z and I personally drove it under rough conditions in 80 degree weather and the temps stayed static. Unfortunately that car is located in California, and our engineering facility is located in Delaware (so we were unable to get data).

A great deal of the cooling efficiency is airflow. We've strategically placed this for optimal airflow.

Please don't feel like I'm attacking. I have great respect for all companies taking the time to make parts for our cars and thank you. :)
The main reason I find question is NOT as much the core size as the testing info provided in the report. I mentioned the core size we need for track duty only because testing of this product in the report seemed vague.
You guys stated that you tested the Z @ 50mph on the highway and had no issues. I was just clarifying that my car will cruise fine @ 220 degrees in the summer. The problem is if I get stuck in traffic or I am hard on the peddle, I jump from 220 to 260 in a heartbeat. Which means if I tracked this car, my situation will be limp mode. Most of us need coolers for sport related duty, not just cruising.

The supercharged part intrigues me though. Knowing that FI draws extra heat into the bay gives some promise to the cooler.
Now you claimed you tested the car under rough conditions. What were they? That is something you should share with us. :)

PM me about further testing of your cooler. I would like to know what are your expectations for this cooler. Would you sell this as a track device or a general cooling device? I'm under the preliminary impression that you are standing by this product as a track optimum cooling device.

Mishimoto 04-17-2012 09:38 PM

Hi Unknown_370,

No, not at all! I realize you are just doing due diligence and trying to find the best part for your car. Unfortunately we don't have data for the kit on our supercharged 370Z. I can tell you I ripped it at the button willow track and it kept steady temps. Also, for reference, the MSRP price listed on our website is the retail price. Our authorized distributors usually have better pricing, but it still comes with our lifetime warranty. I'll send you a PM. We would love for you to test the kit and provide consumer feedback to the community. We spent a lot of time on making sure this kit would handle the needs of the majority of Z owners and we're quite proud of the outcome.

UNKNOWN_370 04-17-2012 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mishimoto (Post 1670226)
Hi Unknown_370,

No, not at all! I realize you are just doing due diligence and trying to find the best part for your car. Unfortunately we don't have data for the kit on our supercharged 370Z. I can tell you I ripped it at the button willow track and it kept steady temps. Also, for reference, the MSRP price listed on our website is the retail price. Our authorized distributors usually have better pricing, but it still comes with our lifetime warranty. I'll send you a PM. We would love for you to test the kit and provide consumer feedback to the community. We spent a lot of time on making sure this kit would handle the needs of the majority of Z owners and we're quite proud of the outcome.


Sounds awesome. PM sent.

UNKNOWN_370 04-17-2012 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mishimoto (Post 1670226)
Hi Unknown_370,

No, not at all! I realize you are just doing due diligence and trying to find the best part for your car. Unfortunately we don't have data for the kit on our supercharged 370Z. I can tell you I ripped it at the button willow track and it kept steady temps. Also, for reference, the MSRP price listed on our website is the retail price. Our authorized distributors usually have better pricing, but it still comes with our lifetime warranty. I'll send you a PM. We would love for you to test the kit and provide consumer feedback to the community. We spent a lot of time on making sure this kit would handle the needs of the majority of Z owners and we're quite proud of the outcome.


Sounds awesome. PM sent to your business Email.

EastBayZ 10-29-2012 12:30 AM

did anyone try it yet? i am very interested

Mishimoto 12-03-2012 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EastBayZ (Post 1987041)
did anyone try it yet? i am very interested

We have yet to hear any complaints or concerns with this kit. We welcome any feedback from those who have installed this oil cooler kit!

Here is an image of the kit fully installed during our test fit:

http://i46.tinypic.com/desq4l.jpg

Feel free to ask any questions you may have regarding the kit or any of our products. Additional information and images can be found on our website.

Thanks


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