No doubt. I've been making that case over the last couple of pages:roflpuke2:.

Just saying, don't go too far in justifying why it is not worth it.

I mean, anyone who does an engine swap is mental to begin with, but that's what makes them great. And a tuned gtr motor would be much more powerful than a vq. So would an LS for that matter.

Yeah...I'm just saying, I'd put in an LSx if I was gonna swap it. More importantly, I wouldn't be using the Z34 chassis if I was gonna do an engine swap though.

Need something with better doors than a z34, more steering feel than an s2k, and a less solid rear axle than a mustang.

Miata?

Why not? It's the truth and it illustrates an important point that anyone one who has swapped an engine can attest to: I always takes twice as long and costs twice as much as you think it should.

best doors running.

Spending that much time on that swap doesn't illustrate that point so much as it makes you look like you don't have a clue what you are doing.

I would not listen to anyone. Its your money, you do what will make you happy. Yeah its not a wise desicion for most, I would still like to see someone do it. That way they can post pictures and videos on youtube and we can all wish we had that kind of money to throw in the trash for a GTR motor swap. Not logical, but oh so sweet.

Yeah. I would love to see it done. It would make more sense for a shop to make the swap to get attention though. We will probably see something like it once the economy picks up.

Makes me think of the guy on HT that converted his prelude to mid-engine RWD. :roflpuke2:

Yup, you're totally right. Got my head up my ***, sorry I tried to help the guy understand that engine swaps are complex, costly, time consuming, and there may be better options for him.

Sorry if I'm being a dck man. I think we are arguing the same point. I agree that engine swap are usually not worth the effort, at least when they don't "bolt in".

Are u sure it won't "bolt in"??? This has Been my question from the beginning...

Even if it did motor mount wise (which i doubt it will), there is no tranny connected directly to that motor. Something tells me the 370z gears ratios (and the tranny and rear end) itsn't cut out for the GTR motor. This all sounds cool in theory, but in practice, I think it would be more work that you are bargaining for. The GTR needs all the gizmos it has to make it great, Z's don't have that.

Yes

you can build your engine and buy a GTM TT st.3 and smoke lambos and so on :driving:

I'd like to see it installed mid-rear.

other than just the "i did it" factor i dont see how this would make any logical or performance sence, a z with any bolt on or even sc kit makes about the same whp as a gtr(low 4's) and that will be pretty reliable if installed and tuned properly. That can be done for under 11k now if someone wanted more you can do like a stage 2 kit with a built shortblock for around 17k or so and that will get you a car with 600-650whp witch again should be safe especially with an ebc. Anything past that i dont know how 100% reliable it can be. Now to get a gtr motor alone gotta cost in the 10k area if not more and thats before you turn 1 nut or bolt to do the swap, assuming it just bolts in with no tranny issues this would easily cost over 20k, but hold on your car still only makes low 4's you still gotta mod that engine to extract power from it!! a 650whp gtr needs around 15-20k to get it there. Now to reverse engineer the tranny issue $$$$$$$$. So with all that being said other that "i did it" why??

oh btw it would be cool as hell especially if the gear box went with it

There was a Japanese tuner that did an R33 swap into a 350Z, it ended up costing upwards of $70K because of all the one-off parts he had to make to support the AWD system. If you did just the engine it would be much simpler, the advantage the VQ38 has over the VQ37 is that the cylinder walls have a very thin iron lining (using the patented Ford process) for more wear resistance and stronger internals, along with no variable intake timing to get in the way of FI.

I have to gree with him. if you really love he car and want a challenge, go for it. it's only money and you can't take it with you.

Why swap a GTR engine when the 3.7 VQHR is already a good platform to build on. The GTR's engine isn't what makes the GTR a" GTR", it's the drivetrain and electronic goodies.

Thread is a couple of weeks old, but I stumbled on this monster powered by a GT-R engine developing 850hp.
Dacia Duster Pikes Peak racer revealed - BBC Top Gear
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--ZKGBNvDnq...kes-peak-4.jpg

If someone managed to stuff the 3.8-litre twin-turbo under this ugly thing, the Z shouldn't be much of a problem. There has to be someone out there crazy enough to try.

now THAT is a rear spoiler!

That thing is ridiculous, it's almost as big as the car is :icon17:

It's functional at least since that's a rally car.

I've seen worse on some civics and hyundai's around here. :shakes head:

That's true. It's one thing if you have a wing like that for function, but people that think a fake one looks good. :shakes head:

A few years ago we (me and a couple friends) pulled a decent-condition motor out of a wrecked Isuzu Trooper, and swapped it into an Isuzu Rodeo with a failed motor. The major difficulties were just stuff like some of the accessories were on the wrong side for the factory hard lines or hoses. But still, we did it in a suburban garage with far from optimal tools and a rented engine hoist and got done in two full weekends or so.

Not all engine swaps are hard, and the more you've done it the easier it gets. The larger the vehicle the better though, not such tight clearances.

But yeah, GT-R engine to 370z doesn't make much financial sense, even from a wrecked one, even if you could get it done in a few weekends.

I love my Z but I think a Z with a GTR engine would be even better .Even if it was a detuned version it would be better ,No over heating ,instant challenge to all V8 pony cars , shared platform would be good for parts, lot more room for tuning .Yes the electronic make the GTR what it is but the engine is 50% of that equation IMHO.A two wheel sports car version while the same platform would have been great .|Very different cars to drive both very fun with all the benifits of the GTR V6

:eek2: i thought that spoiler pic was a joke

Those Pike's Peak cars run some of the craziest aero add-ons. All very functional.

Suzuki Escudo:

http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Suz...Peak_26006.jpg

Some of you guys might remember how badass that car was in Gran Turismo 2 :D

Yes I do remember! It was also good in GT3 and GT4 too. It was my fav because of how ridiculously fast it was and because it could do a wheelie while going 1000+ mph :icon17:

the z motor with turbo's and an oil cooler puts you right there with the gtr. build the short block and your not even thinkning about a gtr motor anymore

Now I want to go drive the Escudo in GT2 :p

Haha! I remember that, if you slip stream 2 of them on a long straight :rofl2:

Good times :D

No.

Even if you got the wrecked GTR for free, I wouldn't suggest you violate your new 370z.

You may need a good German Engineer to brainstorm on this one. You should ask Chris what he thinks about it.

http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...my-vq37hr.html


Personally I'd buy a GTR or an R8. If I spent that much money, I don't wanna have to pop the hood and explain. I'd rather see jaws drop as I drive past.

Not to mention you can never recoup that money. It wouldn't sell for as much as a used GTR even tho it costs more.

.... And wow what if a TT 370 smokes you after its all finished? Hahaha

Believe me i'm no swap hater i'm hoping to get the engine for my vk56 project within a month or two here but the vr38 and awd drive setup is a different story. Its not about the swap car this time its about the motor when your talking a driveline that costs north of 40,000 for the the engine,transmission,front axle and center tube(you'd almost have to buy a gtr to get all the pieces u'd need). thats 6 times the cost of an rb26 which can actually be bolted to a nissan bellhousing for a rwd transmission. there are wo things needed to do this passion and a HUGE checkbook. If someone says they want to spend a ridiculous amount to do this to z all the power to them a shop would put at least a 50,000 tag on the swap on top of a z if they can get the parts cheap you'd be talkin 10-15k labor easy. to make it nice your talkin bullit build level of cash here.

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Just Twin Turbo the Z. And with the extra money build the internals and boost the hell out of it!