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shabarivas 04-20-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 59820)
Roughly 80mph=3100rpm in 6th.

Thats w/ 4.08? I dont think so... should be close to 4k no?

wstar 04-20-2009 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 59838)
Thats w/ 4.08? I dont think so... should be close to 4k no?

I think he meant stock rear end on 6MT (3.692)

ssqpolo 04-20-2009 10:09 PM

correct. i went driving today. i was around 3200 at 85 in my 6MT. so i guess with a 4.08 it would be like 3700-3800?

Minicobra1 04-20-2009 11:45 PM

what's the average price of a rear diff swap out??

I think this would be a great mod, the 370z is a little sluggish exiting a sharp turn in second gear, this would help put it more into the powerband. :tup: My only concern would be drivetrain wine/noise. I've done this swap before on my last few mustangs 4:10's and the drivetrain noise went up considerably. Maybe the gears weren't set right.

Skorch 04-21-2009 12:04 PM

Has it been confirmed that the final drive gears for the 350Z will fit the 370Z? If so, how difficult is it to install them?

LiquidZ 04-21-2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 60057)
what's the average price of a rear diff swap out??

I think this would be a great mod, the 370z is a little sluggish exiting a sharp turn in second gear, this would help put it more into the powerband. :tup: My only concern would be drivetrain wine/noise. I've done this swap before on my last few mustangs 4:10's and the drivetrain noise went up considerably. Maybe the gears weren't set right.

I can probably answer this question for you. Were they Motive gears (or other), or Ford Racing Performance Parts gears?

KLRCADI 04-21-2009 10:48 PM

Price depends.

4.08's are a nissan part ( ring gear from a nissan frontier ) +/- $400
3.9's are aftermarket ( Central 20 ) +/- $600

Install requires a few OEM parts (Pinion bolt, crush sleeve, some seals,etc)

All in, installed probably about a grand. Considering it's less then some exhausts, it's a no brainer to me.

And yes, this is the same R200 diff in the 350z, G35, G37 ( and about a dozen other Nissan cars/Trucks)

Pete

ssqpolo 04-21-2009 11:37 PM

sweeeeet. this will be an awesome mod for us

Diversion 04-28-2009 06:02 PM

I'd definately consider this mod for people who aren't commuting in their Zs to work/school/wherever 5 days a week. Good for the weekend warrior type where gas mileage isn't so important. I'll consider this mod after I find a suitable daily driver!

ssqpolo 04-28-2009 06:07 PM

had a chance to ride in my buddies 350 with the 4.08 swap from Z1. all i can say is wow!! what a diffference. its like u shift down a gear...2nd pulls like first, as does 4th pulls like 3rd. it makes the car soooooo rev happy. it's a lot of fun. the only downside was that it made some noise. this seemed to be a problem with a couple other ppl. maybe becuase it had not been broken in, but i will ask him to update after 1k miles. he bought the stage 2 (or whatever) which came with all new bushings, etc. so it was basically a brandddd new rear end. cool mod. some1 should do it to the 370

wstar 04-29-2009 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssqpolo (Post 64629)
some1 should do it to the 370

You? :) I'm starting to really think about just moving mine up to the 6MT's rear end (3.692 instead of 3.357 that came with my 7AT). I need to go run the numbers again and think about high-speed RPMs more though (that, and wait for a programmer like UpRev that can tell the ECU about it too).

Edit:

7th gear on a stock 7AT setup with stock Sport wheels/tires is approximately 32.78 revs/mph. Swapping in the 6MT's rear end would put it at about 36.04 revs/mph. This is what the revs would look like with the two options, cruising in 7th on a very long track:

mph | rpm | rpm
100 | 3278 | 3604
110 | 3606 | 3964
120 | 3934 | 4325
130 | 4261 | 4685
140 | 4589 | 5046
150 | 4917 | 5406

In the lower 100's it's not too bad a difference. Even at 150mph it's only 500rpm. Hmmmm....

ssqpolo 04-30-2009 01:34 AM

me. nah. i drive wayyyyyyyyyy too much on highways. im not really racing anyway. but u should look into it. that would be a nice swap (the AT to MT).

Unicorn_blood 05-15-2009 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLRCADI (Post 60698)
And yes, this is the same R200 diff in the 350z, G35, G37 ( and about a dozen other Nissan cars/Trucks)
Pete

Pete, I got a 350Z with 4.08s on it... so if I had a 370Z, I could take it to a shop and swap pumpkins?

This sounds like good news to me. My next question like the OP has asked...

How does changing to a lighter flywheel (like JWT) affect Synchro Rev Match shifting? Will it over compensate the rev? Or will it rev match instantly?

javol 08-05-2009 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 65381)
You? :) I'm starting to really think about just moving mine up to the 6MT's rear end (3.692 instead of 3.357 that came with my 7AT). I need to go run the numbers again and think about high-speed RPMs more though (that, and wait for a programmer like UpRev that can tell the ECU about it too)....

Why do you have to "wait for a programmer like UpRev that can tell the ECU about it too?"

Maybe i'm wrong but...

I do not see the reason to advise the ECU.

If you call a gear downshifting, ECU-tranny will give you it anyway, just checking the RPM, not speed...

Or I'm wrong?

Anyone has experience with changing ratio in AT (infiniti, 350Z etc)?

Bye!

wstar 08-05-2009 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javol (Post 138589)
Why do you have to "wait for a programmer like UpRev that can tell the ECU about it too?"

Maybe i'm wrong but...

I do not see the reason to advise the ECU.

If you call a gear downshifting, ECU-tranny will give you it anyway, just checking the RPM, not speed...

Or I'm wrong?

Anyone has experience with changing ratio in AT (infiniti, 350Z etc)?

Bye!

I meant so the speedo will be correct.


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