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^Very well said, RCZ!
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"They claim decades of motorsports pedigree, yet they can't design a car without problems even after MANY generations of Z's" This is either a lack of proper testing, which I find hard to believe, or a case of the bean counters forcing "no oil cooler" to cut costs. I can see the engineers arguing with the accountants over this, and the execs taking the "profit margin" approach............. "let the ones that drive spirited foot the bill for an external cooler" John |
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(2) Do an on line, member(s) signed complaint(may have to be notarized)mail it to Nissan in Tennessee. |
Since I live in Tampa, FL and have only had my 6spd MT 370z for 6 days now, I can say that on this past Saturday, April 25th, my oil temp got up to 245 degrees. The ambient temp for that day was 83 degrees and humidity around 45 percent (though it felt a lot hotter than that when outside in the sun). When I was going across the Skyway Bridge (read steep angle for about 3 miles up and 3 miles back down), I was revving at about 4.5k is when I noticed my my oil temp shot up from 220 to about 245. Now that I am aware of this issue, I will continue to monitor and give updated reports. As usual, thank you everyone for posting useful information!
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My Z's hitting a ceiling of 220 degrees under spirited driving with 68F outside.. I'm frightened to know what Summer's 100+ degree weather is going to do... /sigh.. better go on and order an oil cooler now.
RCZ, what's the highest temp you've seen your oil get to with the cooler on? -Div |
I have been pretty excited about my planned purchase of a 370Z, but I have to say that this issue is making me rethink my decision. It's not a "no" decision yet, but I'm getting close.
Think of the problematic design track record of the 350/370 series -- and think of Nissan's responses to those problems. I'm sure I'm missing one or two, but there have been: Tire eating front suspension. High oil consumption. Oil temperature issues. And Nissan has been famous for its unresponsiveness to the customers' product problems. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. C'mon Nissan! You've got a GREAT product with GREAT design. Give it the pre-release testing and the post-release support that it deserves! |
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Highway it sits at 180 regardless of outside temp. City traffic in hot weather it sits around 190-200 |
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Guys, IMO the very best way to compel Nissan to act is to make this a public issue, with as much data as possible... If you have a friend in the press, please take an opportunity to remind them of what's going down. The media is a multiplying force... For every 1 guy on this board, there are 50+ that only get their info from C&D etc
Re remedies, I agree that a responsible action for Nissan that costs them very little, is to make a clear exception for aftermarket oil coolers and explicitly agree that these do not violate warranty. They could even endorse specific kits - Stillen, Technosquare, etc. |
been lurking for a while. i was very interested in this car as an alternative to a vette. what with the economy and GMs problems i was looking for something cheaper. the hp difference was a slight issue.
now.. i live in the south, dixie you might say.. and it gets hot and humid here in the summer. sometimes i venture into the mountains for a day of road-tripping.. at this point i cant but hold off on any decision until folks start posting their summer driving experiences.. as to nissan doing something.. my guess is this is a big issue. until a cars are damaged. or a lot of cars visit the dealer due to going into limp mode over and over. as to an aftermarket oil cooler.. this also makes me a bit nervous. if something does go wrong to your car and you have done an aftermarket mod to the oiling system, could you then have your claims rejected? anyway.. if nothing else, this will make me put off deciding for several months.. where i might have purchased this spring... |
Temp today in Tamp FL was between 90-91. Revved no higher than 4k, mostly cruising at 3.5k. Normal driving conditions, occasional traffic and the oil was at 220.
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Honestly, I think my car has been getting better as it gets up in miles. I have no empirical data to prove this, but as I clock more miles on the car, it's getting harder for me to get the temps up as high as I did before. With the exception of the rainstorm the past couple of days, the temps around here have been getting hotter as well. I've also made some slight mods that could possible reduce engine heat a little, but nowhere near enough to make really noticeable difference.
It could be that some (but definitely not all) of the engine temp issue is related to waiting for the engine to break in fully. I'm around 3630 miles now, and I'm seeing lower peak oil temps lately than I did around 1K-ish. |
Lets see....when my 370z gets old, im going to drive the crap out of it till it goes into limp mode, then im gonna take it to the dealer to get fixed. When they tell me its fixed, i will repeat the process. After the third time of them not being able to fix my overheating car, they have to give me a new one under lemon law. My car isnt supposed to overheat and go into limp mode. Therefore it is broken. Therefore they have to fix it. If they can't fix it I score a new one.
Im coming Nissan. Edit: Hell, lets all do it. They might consider sending us some oil coolers then. |
doesnt the lemon law apply only in the first 18 months or something after purchase?
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