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houkouonchi 01-16-2011 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by zero (Post 896675)
It's fun when you are in 4K+ on that road. I always down shift to slow down before entering the turn. Don't you love the SynchroRev Match?

Actually I didn't turn on my synchro rev match as I usually never use it. This would have actually been one of the few times it would have been useful to do so. Next time I will turn it on =)

seungklee 01-16-2011 01:37 AM

I just came back from Streets of Willow Track event last week and went WITHOUT an oil cooler. However, it was very cold up there, in the morning, temperatures would be around 24 degrees and when it warmed up in the day, 44 degrees to 50 degrees. Maybe it was the cold weather that I didn't run into limp mode even after pushing the car near redline. I was in the beginner group and the first session was all about following behind the instructor to learn the lines and stuff. Rest of the sessions (there were 6 total sessions that day), I ran almost but not really at full 100% capacity, but I say around 85%. The first five sessions, I shifted constantly at 5k to 6k rpms. In the last session, I decided to go all-out and just redlined it. Temps got never higher than little over 260, but never did I run into a limp mode. Shouldn't be a too much problem doing canyon runs in GMR...this was my experience with the oil temps.

spearfish25 01-16-2011 05:30 AM

It's not the runs up to redline but sustained high RPM that becomes a problem. If you're downshifting hard into a turn and take the turn at 5500rpm, then run to redline through the gears, you'll overheat in any ambient temp. So yes, a canyon run can easily skyrocket oil temps if you're maintaining high RPM. If you're having problems though, there are a couple simple steps that can keep you driving (at a slower pace). 1) slow down (ie use lower revs...obvious, I know), and 2) turn on the AC...in the Z, a secondary radiator fan comes on with the compressor and actually cools the engine oil by about 10-15F.

ChrisSlicks 01-16-2011 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nismoracer (Post 896788)
I may have missed it but at what temp does it go into limp mode?

At 280F you get limited to 5000 rpm, you still have full power beneath 5000 rpm. Stage 2 limp mode kicks in at 300F and severely limits power and limits RPM to around 3500.

Nismoracer 01-16-2011 08:10 AM

Purple Ice by Royal Purple, reduces engine temps by 50 degrees or 10%. Also gain 8 dyno proven hp from swapping the engine, rear diff and tranny fluids. Give it a try. :tup::driving:

ChrisSlicks 01-16-2011 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Nismoracer (Post 896921)
Purple Ice by Royal Purple, reduces engine temps by 50 degrees or 10%. Also gain 8 dyno proven hp from swapping the engine, rear diff and tranny fluids. Give it a try. :tup::driving:

Are you a Royal Purple salesman or what? :roflpuke2:

There are several brands that claim to lower engine temperatures, if you're lucky you'll get 5 degrees, not 50.

Mt Tam I am 01-16-2011 10:30 AM

The oil cooler reduces temps 40+ degrees so do I get any HP? :excited: I wish.

ImportConvert 01-18-2011 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kellyefields (Post 896653)
there may be another factor as well. How old is your oil. I found that the older the oil the faster the temp builds. If I have fresh oil my temps stay lower. I always use royal purple and and the royal purple filter but I went ahead and put a 34 row oil cooler on anyway just for planning on future mods and since then i do not break 210 even in stop and go traffic. You shouldnt have to go that big but I like it.

Royal Purple shears relatively fast compared to other premium oils. The longer you run it, the thinner it shears down. The more it shears down, the less it protects, the more friction you have. With a more stable oil, what you are noticing won't be nearly as apparent.

Endgame 01-18-2011 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 899585)
Royal Purple shears relatively fast compared to other premium oils. The longer you run it, the thinner it shears down. The more it shears down, the less it protects, the more friction you have. With a more stable oil, what you are noticing won't be nearly as apparent.

Not arguing here, but why is Royal Purple 'expensive' then? If it does this, I do not understand the hype about it. Is it just a percieved believe the 'brand' is better than most? I ruled our RP a while back because of the above dynamic and would get Mobil 1 over RP.

Am I missing something?

ChrisSlicks 01-18-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 899716)
Not arguing here, but why is Royal Purple 'expensive' then? If it does this, I do not understand the hype about it. Is it just a percieved believe the 'brand' is better than most? I ruled our RP a while back because of the above dynamic and would get Mobil 1 over RP.

Am I missing something?

They spend millions on advertising to the race/hot rod crowd. For race car engines they are going to change the oil after every event so long term viscosity break down isn't a big concern. It is a huge concern for street cars, and the VQ's in particular don't get very good results from RP on the oil analysis.

kenchan 01-18-2011 10:11 AM

at 5K rpm going uphill + not going very fast + watever extra weight you got onboard, that will get the engine pretty hot.

red6spd 01-18-2011 10:43 AM

Oil cooler will be the first mod for the Z when she comes out of the garage come spring time. I notice a huge difference in performance between 180-200 degree and the 220+ range.

kenchan 01-18-2011 11:40 AM

in contrast, i have no plans to install an oil cooler (street driving) this spring or any time of the season. :D

Endgame 01-18-2011 11:46 AM

kenchan what are those z's in your avatar? they are awesome!! i want!

kenchan 01-18-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 899878)
kenchan what are those z's in your avatar? they are awesome!! i want!

:icon18: those are ChoroQ Hybrid's. they are remote control. :tup:


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