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seungklee 12-07-2010 01:06 AM

Z1 Motorsports 34-row oil cooler kit (any experiences?)
 
Just like the title says, anybody ordered these? have you tracked your car to see the temps? did the temps stay down? I hope I can get a better response from people in SoCal who used this 34-row oil cooler kit from z1 and tracked it in Willow Springs? also during summer times? sorry if this is confusing. Trying to see the comparo between this and AE performance oil cooler kit.

flashburn 12-07-2010 07:21 AM

I'll be going to Sebring on Saturday for an HPDE, so I'll report back. I don't expect to see any oil temperature issues, especially since it is my first HPDE.

daisuke149 12-07-2010 08:54 AM

I has one. Track day the temps didnt go above 210'while on the track. Its def a good setup

seungklee 12-07-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 840385)
I'll be going to Sebring on Saturday for an HPDE, so I'll report back. I don't expect to see any oil temperature issues, especially since it is my first HPDE.

Please let me know, I like to see how this oil cooler performs.

seungklee 12-07-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 840454)
I has one. Track day the temps didnt go above 210'while on the track. Its def a good setup

Wow, that is a good news, thanks for the feedback!

Dustin@Z1 12-09-2010 04:41 PM

I am glad that you are asking for comparisions on our kit and are requesting feedback. I enjoy threads like this since they help us revise and further improve our products. Please feel free to PM me any questions you may have about our kit.

Dustin

HKYStormFront 12-09-2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 840454)
I has one. Track day the temps didnt go above 210'while on the track. Its def a good setup

rode with Dai^^ during the mountain cruise about a month ago or so, we were laughing at all the other Z's that didn't have the oil cooler and even though it was cool outside, they were getting 210+ oil temps during the more "spirited" sections while it seemed to be all Dai could do just to get the temp up to 200. it really works well

flashburn 12-12-2010 02:33 PM

Back from my HPDE at Sebring. Air temperature never got to above 70, so it was a pretty cool day. The first few sessions I kept the car in automatic (but was still driving fairly aggressive) and the Oil temp's never went above 200 or so. In my other sessions I switched to manual, and with a lot of aggressive downshifting I still didn't see above 220.

seungklee 12-19-2010 08:58 PM

Thanks guys for your input! I like what I'm hearing :D

seungklee 12-19-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1 (Post 844974)
I am glad that you are asking for comparisions on our kit and are requesting feedback. I enjoy threads like this since they help us revise and further improve our products. Please feel free to PM me any questions you may have about our kit.

Dustin

Will do sir in the near future!

Bster 12-20-2010 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1 (Post 844974)
I am glad that you are asking for comparisions on our kit and are requesting feedback. I enjoy threads like this since they help us revise and further improve our products. Please feel free to PM me any questions you may have about our kit.

Dustin

Hi Dustin,

I'm considering the 25 row cooler. Will this kit fit the stock engine filter?

Bster 12-20-2010 12:40 AM

Oh the kit does fit the original engine oil filter, as I found out on the website.

Z1 Motorsports 370Z Oil Cooler Kit

Dustin@Z1 12-20-2010 08:03 AM

Correct. You can use either the OEM sized filter or the larger G37 Sedan oil filter which is slightly taller (more capacity).

This feature was something that was critical to us in the designing of the kit as most end users do not want to have try to remember or keep up with an odd ball (non-OE) oil filter number. The sandwich plate adapter (both thermostatic and non-thermostatic) are the same for all variations of Z1 Oil Cooler Kit. The only real major difference in each version is the actual core size and the type of sandwich plate adapter. These options are given for a few reasons, two primarily being:
  1. Customer needs - Driving style, enviornment, etc.
  2. Price - Each customer's budget is different.

Dustin

Blue370tt 12-20-2010 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by seungklee (Post 840180)
Just like the title says, anybody ordered these? have you tracked your car to see the temps? did the temps stay down? I hope I can get a better response from people in SoCal who used this 34-row oil cooler kit from z1 and tracked it in Willow Springs? also during summer times? sorry if this is confusing. Trying to see the comparo between this and AE performance oil cooler kit.

I have the Z1 oil cooler on my 370 WITH twin turbos. Even during very spirited driving it rarely goes over 200 and as you know turbo's generate more heat than a normal engine. Even after 2 hours of straight driving it never went over 220. It works great!

seungklee 12-20-2010 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 858541)
I have the Z1 oil cooler on my 370 WITH twin turbos. Even during very spirited driving it rarely goes over 200 and as you know turbo's generate more heat than a normal engine. Even after 2 hours of straight driving it never went over 220. It works great!

do you have 25-row or 34-row? thanks :D

Dustin@Z1 12-21-2010 08:17 AM

Blue370tt has our 34 Row Oil Cooler Set Up.

John@Z1 12-21-2010 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 840385)
I'll be going to Sebring on Saturday for an HPDE, so I'll report back. I don't expect to see any oil temperature issues, especially since it is my first HPDE.


I saw your car at Sebring but never got to chat with you. What a fun day it was.

RCZ 12-21-2010 08:27 AM

I pretty sure I'd blow past 220 in a hurry on the track...I would have loved to have tried this cooler at some point though, maybe I'm wrong. Gotta daisy chain with a thermostatic adapter of some kinda...nom nom nom.

toner123 12-22-2010 11:54 AM

If it is Z1's oil cooler, I would put it in my car with out worrying about a review. They are great people to deal with and were always honest.
Frank

RCZ 12-22-2010 08:00 PM

^ that we can agree on.

Bster 12-23-2010 01:43 AM

Hi Dustin, thou have PM :)

ChrisSlicks 12-23-2010 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 860205)
I pretty sure I'd blow past 220 in a hurry on the track...I would have loved to have tried this cooler at some point though, maybe I'm wrong. Gotta daisy chain with a thermostatic adapter of some kinda...nom nom nom.

I don't care how big your oil cooler is you are going to go past 220 on this car on track if you drive with any ferocity. If you track regularly get the biggest damn cooler you can find.

flashburn 12-24-2010 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by John@Z1 (Post 860197)
I saw your car at Sebring but never got to chat with you. What a fun day it was.

Ah, cool. Yeah, they tend to keep us newbie's pretty damn busy. I was supposed to stop by and say hello to Sharif, but I didn't get a chance to.

Did you have that TT 370Z that was there?

John@Z1 12-24-2010 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 864781)
Ah, cool. Yeah, they tend to keep us newbie's pretty damn busy. I was supposed to stop by and say hello to Sharif, but I didn't get a chance to.

Did you have that TT 370Z that was there?


No I was in a rental. That guy was behind us with the Ferrari guy. I was hanging with Injected and the Momentum crew most of the time.

flashburn 12-24-2010 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by John@Z1 (Post 864832)
No I was in a rental. That guy was behind us with the Ferrari guy. I was hanging with Injected and the Momentum crew most of the time.

Ah, cool. I heard he had some overheating issues, and I saw him pit really early into one session, so that sucks, but not surprising.

You guys going to be at the Sebring Chin event in March? I think that will be my next event. After that there is the May event at Atlanta Motorsports Park, which I'm almost definitely going to, looks like it is going to be an amazing track.

SPOHN 12-24-2010 12:17 PM

So it said on Z1's website that the 34 row cooler doesn't work with the Stillen gen. 3 intakes. But it almost looks in the instructions that there is a 34 row installed with the Stillen intake. So could you confirm this for me? I know it said it could be relocated, but wouldn't that require different length lines? If it doesn't work, also it said the 25 row works with most intakes. So also does that one work with the Stillen intake?

daisuke149 12-24-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 865032)
So it said on Z1's website that the 34 row cooler doesn't work with the Stillen gen. 3 intakes. But it almost looks in the instructions that there is a 34 row installed with the Stillen intake. So could you confirm this for me? I know it said it could be relocated, but wouldn't that require different length lines? If it doesn't work, also it said the 25 row works with most intakes. So also does that one work with the Stillen intake?

all of their oil cooler kits work with the Gen III. im 100% on this and seen it. (mine)

SPOHN 12-24-2010 01:27 PM

That's good to clear up. I figured that it was this way. Just wanted to be sure. Thanks.

kevr6 12-24-2010 01:40 PM

I haven't tracked my car but have driven hard in 90 degree weather never going over 200 degrees. I installed Z1's 34 row cooler w/ thermostatic option. No problems at all!! Highly recommend.

christian370z 12-25-2010 12:01 AM

Even with hardest I have pushed my Z, I broke 220 with the Stillen 25 row kit but it would not budge from there. I can only imagine the additional cooling needed for FI just based on N/A oil temps!

seungklee 12-25-2010 12:13 AM

Thanks for clearing up the Stillen Gen III Intake fitment issue daisuke, I been wanting to know that too haha. For the Z1 oil cooler kit, do you need protective hose wrapping? Is it necessary?

daisuke149 12-25-2010 12:51 AM

Its a good thing to have it.

ChrisSlicks 12-25-2010 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 865921)
Even with hardest I have pushed my Z, I broke 220 with the Stillen 25 row kit but it would not budge from there. I can only imagine the additional cooling needed for FI just based on N/A oil temps!

With street driving this is true as you can't be on the throttle that long, but when you start taking it to a track where you spend a lot of time in the high RPM's the oil temps will start to come up and you'll be very glad you have a good oil cooler. If you go often enough to become proficient at a given track then at the end of 30 minutes you'll be wishing you got the bigger one, LOL.

christian370z 12-25-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 866075)
With street driving this is true as you can't be on the throttle that long, but when you start taking it to a track where you spend a lot of time in the high RPM's the oil temps will start to come up and you'll be very glad you have a good oil cooler. If you go often enough to become proficient at a given track then at the end of 30 minutes you'll be wishing you got the bigger one, LOL.

I feel like I may be regretting that based on your comment haha, that 220 drive was with Triple's on my bumper going uphill in 2nd gear mostly. Once I get Akebonos with some high temp fluid and pads, I really hope to make it to a track someday and hope oil temps won't become a problem!

ChrisSlicks 12-25-2010 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 866210)
I feel like I may be regretting that based on your comment haha, that 220 drive was with Triple's on my bumper going uphill in 2nd gear mostly. Once I get Akebonos with some high temp fluid and pads, I really hope to make it to a track someday and hope oil temps won't become a problem!

You will be fine for quite a while. It takes quite a few track days to find the limit of what you have now.

flashburn 12-25-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 866250)
You will be fine for quite a while. It takes quite a few track days to find the limit of what you have now.

Yeah, and even then, you might find that you can go 100% for the majority of the session, and then a tad less on the throttle for a small remainder of it and be fine.

For anyone that hasn't already gotten an oil cooler and plans on tracking, I think there is little reason not to go with the 34R cooler, as the price difference is pretty minimal.

flashburn 12-25-2010 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by seungklee (Post 865929)
Thanks for clearing up the Stillen Gen III Intake fitment issue daisuke, I been wanting to know that too haha. For the Z1 oil cooler kit, do you need protective hose wrapping? Is it necessary?

Yes, I think it is for any place where the lines are touching parts of the car they need to be protected. You might also want to wrap parts with rubber hosing where it touches the frame of the car, because that can cause some resonance which will demonstrate itself as a whining sound when the RPM's are at certain levels.

seungklee 12-28-2010 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 866260)
Yes, I think it is for any place where the lines are touching parts of the car they need to be protected. You might also want to wrap parts with rubber hosing where it touches the frame of the car, because that can cause some resonance which will demonstrate itself as a whining sound when the RPM's are at certain levels.

Thanks flashburn, I appreciate your response and any other guys here including Z1! Thanks again!


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