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I looked into this and almost bought one for my car, but then I was told it was a complete nightmare on the Berk 135i race car.
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I found that the Laminova oil coolers can be bought directly from Laminova for quite a bit cheaper. I was originally under the impression that Laminova just made the cores and that Mocal was building the oil cooler housing around them, but I guess not. Laminova I've got a bunch of other immediate expenses to deal with at the moment, but when I get some extra cash put aside, I think I'm going to go ahead and give this a try. |
If I remember correctly the price for an assembled core was around $700.
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pending on how long you want to wait, contact nissan north america. I got mine from them due to the fact that my car was running 240s from the get go. I got the 34 row cooler kit installed and a oil change at $0 cost. I think they want me to keep purchasing nissans lol. But I purchased my thermo adapter plate from gtm and ordered my an10 fittings from mocal so i can keep my an-10 lines. GTM wanted to charge me almost 900 for hoses and fittings and labor and plus it would be a smaller line. No thanx. :D
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I know whats up...youre talking about laminova and Im talking about C&R Racing... |
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The Laminova still looks like a very solid design to me and I think it has more surface area that the c&r because of the thousands of little fins on this thing. I'm currently considering the Laminova C43-332 (43mm diameter core, 332mm length). Though they do have larger 54mm core versions which are more expensive (and even double core setups). I just sent an email to Laminova asking if they had any sort of recommendations as far as oil cooler sizing goes, so we'll see if they get back to me. |
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Also coolant temp exits the radiator at around 165 degress so this will quite good for the oil temps plus you reach operating temp sooner. The oil temps will be very consistent. |
Has anyone made a move on this yet... I would be very interested in the results!
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Strongly considering going the coolant to oil cooler route and want to make sure I have a solid game plan before moving forward. Right now I'm planning on going with the C43 core with a 330 mm length. According to Bat, Inc. that cooler should be equivalent to a 25-30 row air to oil cooler. Currently leaning towards a non-thermostatic sandwich plate since the radiator coolant will prevent overcooling. Also going to get actual hydraulic hoses with crimped ends in lieu of the push on stuff just for the added security. Before anyone says just get the air to oil coolers, the Z is used for AutoX where the air cooler won't have air flow between runs. |
Water can absorb way more heat than air -- its the primary reason to have a water cooled rather than air cooled engine...
http://www.exploratorium.edu/climate...-capacity.html Laminovas are great on efficiency and space -- they tend to be a bit pricey tho. Air cooled anything is only good on the basis of cost, simplicity, and weight savings -- otherwise, water wins every time. |
is there still any interest on this?? sorry bringing this back for discussion
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I purchased a laminova cooler recently, but haven't quite decided how to arrange this and route all the damn coolant and oil lines. At first I thought I could have it mostly vertical from the lower radiator hose to the engine inlet. But the thing is so long that it would be sticking out of my hood if I did that. Also this was under the assumption that I convert to aftermarket intake so the intake boxes are not in the way.
I guess my current idea is to lay it down along the bottom of the radiator, but then the coolant hose has to do a 180, and come back to the engine, the 180 pipes or silicone couplers are also really wide and have to worry about hitting the fan shrouds and crank pulley, and agh my brain is hurting again thinking about this. I wish this thing had female NPT threads on the sides (like most other oil coolers and sandwich plate adapters) instead of these AN fittings because you could make it a lot more compact using something like this http://i.imgur.com/P5sWuHi.jpg rather than this sticking out of opposite sides. http://i.imgur.com/rZDkFLW.jpg I think I'm actually going to try drilling and tapping these AN flanges to convert them into NPT female fitting. I can maybe take some pics of how huge all this crap is later. |
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What I'd really love to see is a kit so that I don't have to piece mail this together. Most important parts would be molded radiator hoses to make this work. Quote:
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I am only seeing the benefits of the oil-water cooler in auto-x use here. For reference, I have a 34 row Setrab installed. No thermostatic adapter. In the cold months it sucks to have to start the car 10-15 minutes ahead of time, but wa no biggie after a few weeks. In the warm/hot months is where the larger cooler shines. Even if my car sat idle for an extended period of time, I never had any oil temp issues and I am in the people's republic of Texas.
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