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TrackRat 09-10-2010 07:55 PM

yeah i think the instructions are on the first or second page of the GB post. Basically go to the vendor website, select the model you want, enter the coupon code during check out and they adjust the purchase price.

Zeto 09-10-2010 10:07 PM

I can't find the coupon code....

Westwood 09-10-2010 10:22 PM

hope you guys get it :D 30 day money back cant go wrong... and im still in love with the race mode but man my tires are getting smoked lol

jpit 09-11-2010 12:31 AM

Coupon code is 6speedgroupbuy.

Zeto 09-11-2010 08:55 AM

Thanks!

VinZ 10-14-2010 06:23 AM

Any new updates on people who have ordered this? Thinking of trying one out. I hate the the dreaded 1 sec delay on this car!!!

Westwood 10-14-2010 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by VinZ (Post 765002)
Any new updates on people who have ordered this? Thinking of trying one out. I hate the the dreaded 1 sec delay on this car!!!

your still going to have a small delay but not 1 sec the throttle response is better thats for sure and i drive with the race mode on all the time and i love it. :tiphat:

dsmarks2002 10-14-2010 11:43 AM

I just installed one on 2010 7AT Roadster, and it works as advertised, I have no intention of sending it back. The lag is practically zero now, the car always seems to be in the right gear, and it just feels faster. I know it's not, but you'll feel like it is. This is how the car should always have felt IMHO. Now much more fun to drive.

dsmarks2002 10-14-2010 11:44 AM

Oh, one more thing, the install is as easy as it says.

Do I think it's a over priced, well, yes. But, you won't regret it once you get it.

Westwood 10-14-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dsmarks2002 (Post 765436)
I just installed one on 2010 7AT Roadster, and it works as advertised, I have no intention of sending it back. The lag is practically zero now, the car always seems to be in the right gear, and it just feels faster. I know it's not, but you'll feel like it is. This is how the car should always have felt IMHO. Now much more fun to drive.

:iagree:

elmz 10-15-2010 03:31 PM

I just ordered mine. After reading the reviews on 6speedonline I had to see for myself. I'm sure this will restore the throttle response I've been missing from my 350Z. I'll post my review when I get it.

didymus 10-15-2010 07:02 PM

Stupid drive by wire..

buddahson 10-15-2010 07:48 PM

FYI, Its only $254.99 when using the coupon code 6SPEEDGROUPBUY on https://www.throttleboost.com.

Thanks goes to TrackRat for the thread link that had the coupon.

370Z JT 10-17-2010 12:12 AM

man so tempting.

When I floor it going through a yellow light, the lag is terrible!

ZeeYouLater 10-20-2010 04:02 AM

I have no wiring diagramm of the sprint booster. But to do this he has to modify both different resistors characteristic lines of the accelerator pedal. There are to resitor lines because of safety. Can you imagine the problem if the cheap c++ microcontroller A/D - D/A sampler circuit ist doing something wrong because of EMI from a mobile phone. You got an SMS and the car is ignoring the red light :-(

You can also hit the pedal harder to let the wheels spin :-)

LebaneeZ370 10-20-2010 04:20 AM

Could anyone post a link where i can purchase the sprint booster, its a must from what i heard. hope its not difficult to install.
Another question?? does it void your warranty??

Thanks

ChrisSlicks 10-20-2010 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 769014)
man so tempting.

When I floor it going through a yellow light, the lag is terrible!

Flooring it is flooring it, the sprint booster does not change that, it does not change engine characteristics only throttle input percentage.

To fix the lag you need a tune.

DIGItonium 10-20-2010 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 769014)
man so tempting.

When I floor it going through a yellow light, the lag is terrible!

Hopefully my dealer is getting to the bottom of this. I don't see how some of this lag can be attributed to DBW especially after several miles of driving the car with at least 75-80F ambient. The 350Z never had this issue.

The tech I drove with confirmed the lag and says it feels like a lean condition. Unfortunately it was cold (< 70F) so it was a hit or miss, so hopefully it's warmer tomorrow for another test drive with the tech to gather more data so he can open up a case with Nissan.

I thought about the SB as well, but I don't think it'll fix the issues described.

cossie1600 10-20-2010 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 773601)
Flooring it is flooring it, the sprint booster does not change that, it does not change engine characteristics only throttle input percentage.

To fix the lag you need a tune.

It's amazing no one understands that.

NXTAZEE 10-20-2010 08:24 AM

Ok, so the SB increases throttle input percentage. So then if you have it in race mode you will attain full throttle at about 75% of throttle travel. Now, if you mash the throttle down in this mode will it not reach WOT in less time? Assuming we are pressing the throttle down equally as quick in each case, it would take longer to achieve WOT in the stock setting. If this stands to reason then improved throttle response would be the result. Would it not?

Zeto 10-20-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE (Post 773647)
Ok, so the SB increases throttle input percentage. So then if you have it in race mode you will attain full throttle at about 75% of throttle travel. Now, if you mash the throttle down in this mode will it not reach WOT in less time? Assuming we are pressing the throttle down equally as quick in each case, it would take longer to achieve WOT in the stock setting. If this stands to reason then improved throttle response would be the result. Would it not?

This is it exactly!! I bought the sprintbooster with doubts but let me tell you, I am now a believer. :happydance:

ChrisSlicks 10-20-2010 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE (Post 773647)
Ok, so the SB increases throttle input percentage. So then if you have it in race mode you will attain full throttle at about 75% of throttle travel. Now, if you mash the throttle down in this mode will it not reach WOT in less time? Assuming we are pressing the throttle down equally as quick in each case, it would take longer to achieve WOT in the stock setting. If this stands to reason then improved throttle response would be the result. Would it not?

No. I can get my foot to the floor in 1/10th of a second (100ms), most of that time is in initiating the movement. At best you are possibly saving 0.01 seconds - not perceptible. I don't doubt that it makes the car feel more responsive in other partial throttle situations, but that is mostly perception - i.e. you got more go from a smaller movement. The problem that people like Digi are talking about isn't going to be fixed by a pedal, it is the ECU programming.

Westwood 10-20-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeto (Post 773697)
This is it exactly!! I bought the sprintbooster with doubts but let me tell you, I am now a believer. :happydance:

:tup: its the way it should be.

Zsteve 10-20-2010 04:01 PM

As one of the graphs displayed showed, this is all about voltage. At WOT there is about 5 volts, half 2.5 volts etc. So what Im thinking is the booster just adds more voltage sooner so it is imulating WOT at half throttle. I think someone said something about messing with resisters which will change voltages. Now if it is also doing some other change I dont know and if it is Im not sure what it could be at the pedal. I would be curious to drive my car then one with the booster in to see what it does.

DIGItonium 10-21-2010 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 774326)
As one of the graphs displayed showed, this is all about voltage. At WOT there is about 5 volts, half 2.5 volts etc. So what Im thinking is the booster just adds more voltage sooner so it is imulating WOT at half throttle.

Pretty much. I'm assuming the pedal has a potentiometer whose reference voltages vary from 0-5V. The response should be linear with pedal travel. SB pretty much alters this "linear" voltage curve with one that is adjusted with a quicker curve. The ECU is programmed with its own throttle control map that takes these reference voltage levels and apply throttle control according to numerous factors (emission, engine, environmental, safety, etc.).

With cars being so "smart" nowadays with practically full computer controls, the ECU tries to operate the engine in a manner that is the most efficient.

It's all within the programming of the system. I'm pretty sure a 3.7L engine with high compression is capable of producing more low end torque, but at the expense of other factors. It's pretty unfortunate, but I'm pretty sure that's how we get the extra 1 MPG despite having more power. :icon14:

So depending on these factors, our sense of 80% pedal travel and expecting 80% throttle won't be the same all the time.

elmz 10-21-2010 10:52 AM

I'm still waiting for mine to arrive and I'll do a comparison video. I think the main issue here is people keep talking about how it "just" amplifies throttle response by X amount percent. But what others are trying to say is, it shaves off the actual lag it takes for the engine to start reving from the second you pound on the throttle, AS WELL AS amplify throttle response. The fact is, when you are rolling at a very slow pace or even at idle, and floor it, the engine doesn't even begin to really rev until 2-3 seconds later, and that is with the throttle all the way down. It just doesn't wind up like it did in my 350Z, and anyone who previously owned one will know this.

I'm not sure if this has been posted before, and he maybe a member here, but he has a video displaying the lag. When I get mine, I'll do one with the SB installed so we can all "see" the difference. But if someone else who already has a SB installed wants to do it, it would save me the trouble :icon17:

elmz 10-21-2010 10:54 AM

Hehe I forgot to link the video:icon17:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6W_39sKb2s

VinZ 10-21-2010 12:07 PM

Ok, I ordered mine after reading the reveiws here and because I also hate the dreaded 1 sec delay when u hit the gas. I got it with the discounted group buy from the link posted in this thread :tup:. I installed it yesterday and it is everything that people are saying. The car just seems way faster and practially getz rid of the delay. It's definatly not as pronouced as before. I'd say it is worth the discounted price that I paid and makes the car more enjoyable to drive. It feels like it's always ready go, where before it felt a little lazy. Overall I'm happy with it.

ChrisSlicks 10-21-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elmz (Post 775313)
I think the main issue here is people keep talking about how it "just" amplifies throttle response by X amount percent. But what others are trying to say is, it shaves off the actual lag it takes for the engine to start reving from the second you pound on the throttle, AS WELL AS amplify throttle response. The fact is, when you are rolling at a very slow pace or even at idle, and floor it, the engine doesn't even begin to really rev until 2-3 seconds later, and that is with the throttle all the way down. It just doesn't wind up like it did in my 350Z, and anyone who previously owned one will know this.

I'm sorry, it cannot fix this. It does not alter the ECU in any way, hence correcting any ECU lag (whatever the reason) is impossible. It only amplifies throttle response - read their information, it is very clear in this regard.

elmz 10-21-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 775495)
I'm sorry, it cannot fix this. It does not alter the ECU in any way, hence correcting any ECU lag (whatever the reason) is impossible. It only amplifies throttle response - read their information, it is very clear in this regard.

Sounds good man, that's why you're not going to order it. But I am.

ChrisSlicks 10-21-2010 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elmz (Post 775612)
Sounds good man, that's why you're not going to order it. But I am.

Knock yourself out. Just saying that the money can be better spent on a tune, where they actually can address some of these issues.

Zsteve 10-21-2010 02:33 PM

I guess the real test would be on the 1/4 track, doing somer before runs and afters runs and see if it actually helps. Im sure it may improve the fun factor, and trust me that is a big thing, and it might be worth the intro price just for that alone. But for me to believe I would have to drive my car which has the CBE and Cobb tune and then the SB car. Now the delay everyone is talking about I only feel if Im in regular drive and low rpms and stomp on the gas, then it takes a sec to kick in. But if I know I want to zoom zoom, I put it in paddle mode and drop a gear or two to get the rpms up (just like a stick shift would have to do) and when I step on it then the car just goes. Even a stick will be slugish if its not in the right gear and rpms.

wishihadnav 10-21-2010 02:42 PM

you can get uprev tuned for around $500...why buy this?..just spend a little more for the tune and your set.

DIGItonium 10-21-2010 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 775619)
Now the delay everyone is talking about I only feel if Im in regular drive and low rpms and stomp on the gas, then it takes a sec to kick in. But if I know I want to zoom zoom, I put it in paddle mode and drop a gear or two to get the rpms up (just like a stick shift would have to do) and when I step on it then the car just goes. Even a stick will be slugish if its not in the right gear and rpms.

Yea, but my problem is that I can literally floor it in 1st and 2nd and it doesn't pull hard at all. You can view my YouTube video in the Gas Pedal Delay thread. I recorded some clips showing how I can break loose my tires on a roll in 1st when "cool," record the speed the car revs up in 1st and 2nd, and then show it again when things are "hot." The video will show you that on a roll in 1st and 2nd, the car revs up slow as if throttle isn't even opening up. That's why I don't think SB will help my situation.

I'm perfectly fine with the throttle response of this car immediately once the car warms up after start up. Then after driving for awhile the throttle response becomes sluggish to the point I find myself trying to give it more gas to get it to go anywhere. It's bad when temps are hot out there.

Sorry for going OT in this thread, but just to make things clear about throttle delay versus not getting power when applying 50-80% throttle on a roll. I'm going for another test drive with the tech this afternoon since it's warmer.

[EDIT] Drats... had to reschedule. Hopefully it doesn't get any colder.

Zsteve 10-21-2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 775759)
Yea, but my problem is that I can literally floor it in 1st and 2nd and it doesn't pull hard at all. You can view my YouTube video in the Gas Pedal Delay thread. I recorded some clips showing how I can break loose my tires on a roll in 1st when "cool," record the speed the car revs up in 1st and 2nd, and then show it again when things are "hot." The video will show you that on a roll in 1st and 2nd, the car revs up slow as if throttle isn't even opening up. That's why I don't think SB will help my situation.

I'm perfectly fine with the throttle response of this car immediately once the car warms up after start up. Then after driving for awhile the throttle response becomes sluggish to the point I find myself trying to give it more gas to get it to go anywhere. It's bad when temps are hot out there.

Sorry for going OT in this thread, but just to make things clear about throttle delay versus not getting power when applying 50-80% throttle on a roll. I'm going for another test drive with the tech this afternoon since it's warmer.

[EDIT] Drats... had to reschedule. Hopefully it doesn't get any colder.

could what you are describing, (after things get hot) be heat loss? I dont know if that would affect throttle response or not but I do know it robs you of hp and the ECU changes settings to try and compensate.

DIGItonium 10-21-2010 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 775985)
could what you are describing, (after things get hot) be heat loss? I dont know if that would affect throttle response or not but I do know it robs you of hp and the ECU changes settings to try and compensate.

I'm not sure. It's just everyday driving, and it doesn't involve hard driving. I drive home from work, and when I get close to home it feels like there's no power at times. Like if I accelerate in 2nd with moderate throttle and let it rev up past 4k, I can feel the engine holding back and not accelerating as hard. If I progressively press the pedal down to the floor it doesn't lunge forward and push me back to the seat.

It'll be nice for someone who has a similar experience can test to see if SB actually does anything after a long day of driving.

Westwood 10-22-2010 07:01 AM

its still 30 days money back. guys what more can you ask? you give it a shot and if you think its crap you send it back :D

KillBill 10-23-2010 01:18 AM

Just installed it on my G37 5AT...Product works exactly the way people are describing...Glad I got it.

Zsteve 10-23-2010 08:54 AM

so has anyone installed this on a tuned car yet? If so how is it?

LebaneeZ370 10-25-2010 03:01 AM

Please someone tell me where i can order it online??
thank you


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