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Mike 07-31-2010 10:52 PM

I think I know the problem, but I am sharing my friends car for the track day anyways.

We came back from the awards dinner and my brake lights were on, on the trailer. They were on earlier, but I thought it was the exit/entry sentry lights,.

I also know that you can't power brake this car without pulling the abs fuse. brakes on, engine wont rev, period

I think my brake light switch or brake pressure switch has failed. that would explain no codes and cut power

fullmonty 07-31-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 654611)
I think I know the problem, but I am sharing my friends car for the track day anyways.

We came back from the awards dinner and my brake lights were on, on the trailer. They were on earlier, but I thought it was the exit/entry sentry lights,.

I also know that you can't power brake this car without pulling the abs fuse. brakes on, engine wont rev, period

I think my brake light switch or brake pressure switch has failed. that would explain no codes and cut power

Damn that would be a helluva thing

Chris@FsP 08-01-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 654611)
I think I know the problem, but I am sharing my friends car for the track day anyways.

We came back from the awards dinner and my brake lights were on, on the trailer. They were on earlier, but I thought it was the exit/entry sentry lights,.

I also know that you can't power brake this car without pulling the abs fuse. brakes on, engine wont rev, period

I think my brake light switch or brake pressure switch has failed. that would explain no codes and cut power

Could like a faulty relay. Hope you get it all worked out!

1slow370 08-01-2010 03:55 PM

think it could be another ipdm the seemed to be faulty a while ago but then people stopped hearing about them.

Mike 08-02-2010 08:50 PM

nope, it was the brake switch. Stopped by Gwinnett Place Nissan on the way home today, and the mechanic came out and looked at it on the trailer, and the switch was out of adjustment. 5 minutes with a wrench under the dash and he fixed it, we didn't even do any paperwork or anything.

Although, the parts manager, who is a friend of mine said they have been seeing a fairly large number of switch failures lately at Nissan on the Zs.

semtex 08-02-2010 08:59 PM

Thanks for sharing the fix, Mike! This is good info.

PapoZalsa 08-02-2010 09:12 PM

Good you found the problem!

Jordo! 08-02-2010 10:34 PM

Huh? I don't get why the brake switch would cause the problems you were having with TPS readings :confused:

Did the ECU think the brake was fully depressed when it wasn't? :confused:

Mike 08-02-2010 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 656913)
Huh? I don't get why the brake switch would cause the problems you were having with TPS readings :confused:

Did the ECU think the brake was fully depressed when it wasn't? :confused:

yes, the 350 and 370 both have this feature programmed in that says if you are braking, there is no reason you should also be accelerating, so it won't let the throttle open more than 15% if the brakes are applied. With the switch sending the signal that the brakes are on, it was restricting the throttles.

Anyone that drag races these with slicks knows they have to pull the abs fuse to power brake it and do a burn out. Try it sometime without doing that, the car won't do it.

Jeffblue 08-02-2010 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 656969)
yes, the 350 and 370 both have this feature programmed in that says if you are braking, there is no reason you should also be accelerating, so it won't let the throttle open more than 15% if the brakes are applied. With the switch sending the signal that the brakes are on, it was restricting the throttles.

Anyone that drag races these with slicks knows they have to pull the abs fuse to power brake it and do a burn out. Try it sometime without doing that, the car won't do it.

how do people heal toe with this feature?

HKYStormFront 08-02-2010 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 656984)
how do people heal toe with this feature?

you don't need hardly any throttle to rev the engine with the clutch in and besides, with the rev match shifting the 370 does, you don't need it anyway.

that sucks you didn't get to drive your own car mike but at least bryan let you take some laps in his. i'm hoping to get some seat time in the beast at the next A/V track weekend coming up :tup:

Jordo! 08-03-2010 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 656969)
yes, the 350 and 370 both have this feature programmed in that says if you are braking, there is no reason you should also be accelerating, so it won't let the throttle open more than 15% if the brakes are applied. With the switch sending the signal that the brakes are on, it was restricting the throttles.

Anyone that drag races these with slicks knows they have to pull the abs fuse to power brake it and do a burn out. Try it sometime without doing that, the car won't do it.

Huh. So no brake-stand launches for the autos then...?

WarmAndSCSI 08-03-2010 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 657030)
Huh. So no brake-stand launches for the autos then...?

Indeed. I'm no noob to launching or doing a burnout in an automatic, so we took the Z out to the middle of the desert (literally) and I tried a few burnouts/launches. As Mike describes, as soon as you apply throttle while braking, the engine cuts power. I was able to get maybe 1.5 sec of brake-torquing before the engine cut power. Needless to say, no burnouts were achieved that day.

It actually makes for a very poor launch...

Jordo! 08-03-2010 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 657086)
Indeed. I'm no noob to launching or doing a burnout in an automatic, so we took the Z out to the middle of the desert (literally) and I tried a few burnouts/launches. As Mike describes, as soon as you apply throttle while braking, the engine cuts power. I was able to get maybe 1.5 sec of brake-torquing before the engine cut power. Needless to say, no burnouts were achieved that day.

It actually makes for a very poor launch...

Well that sucks.

I guess it's just as well since we have no way of checking to see if the ATF is burnt from doing that...

I was able to lay wheels pretty nicely just flooring with the traction control off tho :D

Chris@FsP 08-03-2010 10:17 AM

You could always install a switch on the brake wire going into the ecu to disable that function when racing.


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