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jnaut 05-09-2010 09:43 AM

i dont think it will be the flywheel or pulley causing the srm to be off , it will be the gears i will be a higher rpm than stock, if were are at the same mph.

as for dd use, i see no problem, as long as you dont cruise at high rate of speed for hours on ends since there is and rpm increase.

and on another note i cant wait for my full exhaust, the car is really coming together a lot better acceleration, tranceformer and i went on an empty hyw,(i had my g.f. in my car)it was noticeably different, it is a good test as his is100% stock.

Zsteve 05-09-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jnaut (Post 530415)
i dont think it will be the flywheel or pulley causing the srm to be off , it will be the gears i will be a higher rpm than stock, if were are at the same mph.

as for dd use, i see no problem, as long as you dont cruise at high rate of speed for hours on ends since there is and rpm increase.

and on another note i cant wait for my full exhaust, the car is really coming together a lot better acceleration, tranceformer and i went on an empty hyw,(i had my g.f. in my car)it was noticeably different, it is a good test as his is100% stock.

Cool, right now Im kinda stuck between the gears and lad or SC and maybe LSD. Gotta see the price diff between the two.

CBRich 05-09-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 530429)
Cool, right now Im kinda stuck between the gears and lad or SC and maybe LSD. Gotta see the price diff between the two.

The gears are much cheaper than the supercharger but won't give you nearly as big a difference. These are two totally different categories of modification.

Zsteve 05-09-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 530434)
The gears are much cheaper than the supercharger but won't give you nearly as big a difference. These are two totally different categories of modification.

Yea its all about the money, I am leaning heavily on the SC side tho, just waiting for a few to get it and see how it does and to find a shop I can trust on the install. Buut if SC is a no go then the gears are my next mod.

So with the AT what is different about the diff that makes me have to get a whole new pumpkin? And is it a auto or manual pumpkin from the 350Z Id have to get?

So parts are as this? new pumpkin, gears, LSD, and some kind of rods?

jnaut 05-09-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 530436)
Yea its all about the money, I am leaning heavily on the SC side tho, just waiting for a few to get it and see how it does and to find a shop I can trust on the install. Buut if SC is a no go then the gears are my next mod.

So with the AT what is different about the diff that makes me have to get a whole new pumpkin? And is it a auto or manual pumpkin from the 350Z Id have to get?

So parts are as this? new pumpkin, gears, LSD, and some kind of rods?


the diff housing are the same between, the difference is inside , the carrier ( where the ring gear bolts up). you would need to change that carrier plus the stub shaft and axle if yourgoing to run lsd or get a manual rear end out of a 350,g35,g37,370z. then do the gear swap. now if you dont want to go as agressive you can put in the stock gears out of a manual 370z, as the auto 370z has 3.3 axle ratio and the manual has 3.6.in the f.s. section there a stock lsd with gears. he prolly has everything you need to do 3.6 ratio swap for minimal money.



1. Both lsd and non-lsd manual 370z take the same gears. no mod needed to do the 4.08 ratio swap. straight install.

get parts from 2006 nissan frontier xe 2.5l manual trans

1. 38100-0c760 ring/pinion
2. 38165-0c020 pinion crush sleeve
3. 43262-01p1a pinion nut
4. 38154-0c000 spacer between pinion bearing and drive gear
5. 38120-ec000 pinion bearing
6.gasket maker
7.gear oil


optional parts( i did not use these but the installer might request that you repalce them)
8. 38140-0c000 pinion bearing
9. input shaft seal

SE 05-09-2010 06:07 PM

Intersting. I might wait for a SRM fix before I attempt this though.

jnaut 05-09-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by weeeee (Post 530945)
Intersting. I might wait for a SRM fix before I attempt this though.


my srm works

SE 05-09-2010 06:26 PM

Didn't you say it was off by a few hundred RPM? Or is that fixed now?

jnaut 05-10-2010 05:48 PM

yes its off by a few hundred rpm,most of the time i dont even notice.

1slow370 05-11-2010 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tranceformer (Post 529493)
one other thing, I have a SPL diff bushing set from when I had my 350Z, never got around to installing it or even selling it. Kuah@SPL assured me that the front bushings would fit and the rear would stick out a little bit since the 350Z rear subframe is a little bit thicker. Last night, we checked it while we had the diff out. Everything looks good, I think I may end up keeping the diff bushings for my Z. :tup:

did you install the aluminum bushings? was there any increase in noise after the install?

tranceformer 05-11-2010 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 532765)
did you install the aluminum bushings? was there any increase in noise after the install?

nope, didn't install them, just mocking them up to see if they would fit. i'll probably end up installing them on my Z.

jnaut 05-12-2010 02:21 PM

If you have an open rean and want put install a stock lsd, you will need a passenger side stub shaft from an lsd car, weather it be auto or stick doent matter. If you are and auto lsd/open you will need a carrier from a manual car, not the entire diff. also the ratio for auto is 3.3 and the manual is 3.6 so if you dont want to go a radical as 4.08 just swap a stock manual rear end/gears.

Solus 11-09-2010 12:15 PM

I am digging up threads from the grave because I can't find the one I am looking for. Any idea how much loss in top speed a manual 370z would have when switching to 4.08's?

jnaut 11-09-2010 12:28 PM

without a tune you will lose none, i have gone to an indicated 167mph with my 4.08 gears.

Solus 11-09-2010 12:35 PM

Do you know off hand what kind of RPM increase you saw at highway speeds? say 70-80 mph?


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