5-30w mobile1 extended performance. please advice.
 

Hi I'm planning to do the change oil this weekend. I'm planning to use oem filter or Nissan oil filter and planning to use 5-30w mobile1 extended performance. I'm kinda person barely drive on freeway. Use my car for everyday run on the feeder so stop and go all the time. Please help me out to pick the good engine oil so to keep the life of my engine. Thanks so much guys!!

my37z
 

This is a topic that will go on and on. I would post on bobistheoilguy if you want a breakdown on various oils. All of us have our favorites and reasons for them but that does not make it the right oil for you. I prefer synthetics for its heat tolerances given the Z's high running temps. Most pure synthetics will maintain vis to 400 or over. On the other hand, any good spec oil will most likely do the job if not pushed. I use extended drain intervals on my vehicles but may not when I get my Z because the high temps on the Z would bother me being a tad OCD. Mobile extended is a conventional oil with a tad more additives then their base oil. I would not hesitate to run it 5000 but would not go more and that is on a broken in engine. I would do research on filters as well. Oil is only as good as its' filter. Again, oil is a sacred subject and we all have an opinion. And you know the saying that opinions are like --------, we all have them and they all stink...

Mobil 1 extended performance is their top synthetic oil and is fully synthetic (including its
base). It's a good choice. For filters I would recommend K&N HP-1010 or Purolator Pureone PL14610. These are a little longer than the recommended filters but fit fine.

Is it Ester based?

Mobil 1 is not ester based. Redline is and the partial synthetic Nissan ester has ester additives.

From some internet research along with Redline; Amsoil, Pennzoil Platinum, Royal Purple, Motul 8100 and 300V appear to be fully synthetics with ester in them or made from ester base stocks or something... ester...

I've got PR lined up for my next oil change but reading the UOA's for RP on bitog has me worried... the oil seems to shear...

OP, how many miles do you have? I wouldn't change to synthetic before you hit say 3500/5000 miles

im about to hit 3500 anyway im planning to do the change oil every 3500. so what is the best choice for our z?

I would go with Redline, it's ester based, so group V oil.
I believe Mobile1 EP is group IV or even III.

OP, Xan's giving good advice here, there are reasons why you want to use an ester based oil. Redline is used by heaps people on this forum including the forum owner AK, if you can get your hands on some it would be one of the best choices for your z. No one can really say which is best... you'll start threads that go for 15 pages with name calling and flaming if you ask that type of question too often... The oils I've mentioned in my first post to you are oils within the top end of the motor oils available. There are other good ones as well of course... however, both at this forum as well as the specialist forum of BITOG, redline seems to have an extremely good reputation.

Redline FTW.

Yeah our engine runs pretty hot and Ester's are very shear resistant... Which means it maintains it viscosity at high temperatures...

On the filters, from another post I made earlier;

From what I understand the Puro has a finer filter but this comes at the expense of flow rate (though still within SEA standards). Now the bypass pressure on the Puro is also somewhat higher then the K&N.
So allthough it filters better just from a filter performance point of view and therefore does good in tests, I'm wondering how good it is for our engines, especially when you drive them under high load for a longer time.

I wasn't able to find the exact specs for the two different filters and I don't know if this is correct, but this is what I found for similar filters:

Purolator PureOne PL34631
* Average largest pore size: 42 µm
* Smallest pore size: 10 µm
* 30W 70F Oil flow @ 10psi: 5.3 oz per minute

K&N 3002
* Average largest pore size: 63 µm
* Smallest pore size: 27 µm
* 30W 70F Oil flow @ 10psi: 14.7 oz per minute


So there I would go with either one based on how you drive;
- during break in I would go with a Puro,
- then after if you drive it hard a lot I would use a high flowing K&N
- if you drive more modest I would go with a Puro for filtering more.

These are of course all just my opinions...

ok guys thanks for helping me out!! decided to go with redline oil.. someone can send me a link or post a link where can i get those redlines! thanks!!

Red Line Synthetic Oil

online or find dealer...

ok, will use k&n filter too!!

As I said in my first reply, there are numerous opinions. In filters, I would also rate Mobil one extended and Amsoil filters as two of the best. The flow rates are not in question as in the Pure(the bypass valve in the pure has also been called into question for possible freezing and staying open but I think this is rare and have used the filter with good results) however, they are much more expensive. I would also have no problems going with any four or so of the premium synthetics mentioned in this thread. Again, use a good synthetic, very good filter and change it by 5000 and you will be more then fine.....

Most oils have ester additives as part of their additive package.

Nissan is just using the term Ester Oil very liberally, like how Castrol Syntec can say it's a synthetic, even though it's really just "well cracked" dino.

There was a lawsuit years ago that allowed Castrol to call it's stuff synth...and they won. Hooray for a dumb judge.

Why, exactly?

Im about to switch to castrol edge. I use the napa gold filter as its is a better filter than the oem.
Do you know how the castrol edge oil compares to other oils.

You're right chuck. Ok I will do the seach more about the engine oil and the filter for our z so I don't mess up with it. At dealer they charge too much. Regular plus 60 for exclusive oil for our z. So total around 100. I don't think we can't get better oil on that amount.

Just can't understand y Nissan make a such a car like this so picky about the oil. Sorry for my bad English. Thanks guys!! Anyway can't blame them too. It's my fault too. Because the z caught my eyes. Hehehe. The z look so sexy!! Hehehe!!

Guys I have a question. I went to the dealer and asked about the oil and what is the different about the base oil and the best one they offer additional 60 dollars. The service manager said the best oil almost same like the mobile 1. And the oil have the MS in there. So just wondering what is the MS thing. And they show me 3 filter including the Nissan filter the other 2 is "fram" and "k&n" and the materials they use in the Nissan filter is better than the other filter. And why I asked for advice about the mobile 1 because the service manager said "almost same like the mobile1" that's get into my mind that maybe the mobile1 better than they oil. So what do u guys think?

No, there are threads comparing OEM NIssan filter to others and OEM are not as well made. as oil goes, I'd would for sure buy Redline over M1 ep. Saying that I use M1 EP in my 08 pathfinder, but will only use a Ester based oil like Redline/Motul in my Z. coming soon for another change and that is what is going back in. you get what you pay for and oil is the blood of your engine so I never skimp over that. I mean you pay how much for the car? I say give it what you can. Is it going to blow up if you use somethign other then that, most likely not, but is it as good? that is the question.
Just do some searching man and you'll be able to make your decision on this a little easier.

One last thing for the OP
 

When you said mobile extended, make sure you are talking about mobile 1 extended synthetic and NOT mobile extended service which is not synthetic but says it is good for 5000 miles. Again, there is a whole bunch out there so have fun researching. bobistheoilguy can give you more then you want on oil and filters.

and invest in an oil cooler as well =]

I am an amsoil guy

Mobil 1 took a hell of a beating in my weekend track vehicle for a full season. DD was fine to.
Redline also great oil, actually 10deg cooler at same track then M1
Curently Z running ENEOS 0W 50 FS and runs good.

TBH so many oils to choose, go by budget and need, they all do a decent job for the daily grind and week end fun.

:rolleyes: Why should he do that (unless he's tracking the car)?

I would be interested to hear opinions too. I think I heard someone say its ester based on here.

In my previous car (E46 M3) the factory reccomended oil was Castrol Motorsport 0-60. People always said it was good oil although may be different that "Edge". I wonder if Edge is similarly good. I just started using it in my wifes car (first synthetic oil change) and it uses 5-30 as well. Would be convenient to use the same oil in both cars.

I was shocked the other day to see how many premium oils are now available at Wal Mart. Seems all the majors now have the ultra-premium blends, Wal Mart now even sells Royal Purple.

Ya that's where I got the Castrol Edge lol. It was by far the cheapest there!

I did mine at 4k... Discount had a deal buy 5 Qts of mobile 1 and get a free Mobile filter. You can't go wrong with them and it's hell of alot cheaper! I've always trusted Mobile 1....

Castrol oils
 

Many have used Castrol for years in their BMW's and Porsche's but Castrol makes many diffferent oils with different formulas. Many in the German family of cars use Castrol Gold which, is a very good oil and manufactured in Germany but can be found in the U.S. at many stores. It will say manufactured in Germany on the back and does or used to come in a gold container thus the "gold" label. It has performed well in oil analysis over the years and talked about on bobistheoilguy at great length. I have not used it but many I know do and that is the only Castrol that they will use. I am not familiar with Castrol Edge and would do some searches or look on bobistheoilguy. Any time an oil is much cheaper then something else would cause me to think why but many times oils are on promo sales and you can find good deals. Again, the info is out there it just takes time. Remember, compared to the price of our cars all oil and filters are very cheap insurance so look at the issue closely ..However, opinions are like...........