online store only for us and canada.

great...

anybody up for picking them up for me. :roflpuke2:

Pathetic marketing strategies by some manufacturers. They deserve to be undersold!

LiquidZ is right on the money regarding Fram; they're right at the bottom of the list the engineer did on oil filters.

Hilarious. well il go to autozone this weekend and see what they can get a hold off.

Well if anybody is willing to get those filters I cant get here please do PM me.

Vegitto, I'm sure you can find an excellent oil filter in your country. To be honest, I'm not sure what is sold there. The recommendations I made were based on experiences/research I had with filters available to me here in the States.

The Z uses the same filter as my 2002 Kia Spectra!:tup:

If it's the study I'm thinking of, he did not test Fram's Extended Guard oil filter - in fact, I believe the Extended Guard line is relatively new and the study was done a number of years ago.

I am pretty sure that I can get K&N filters here but I will let you guys know next week on what I found

So tell us why Mr. Amsoil dealer? Tell all of us how the amsoil filter stacks up to the Fram Extended Guard filter in efficiency, capacity, construction and retail price? If you need help, I can tell them, you have a lower filtering efficiency, lower dirt trapping capacity, a retail price that is 30-50% higher, a piece of perforated plastic holding up the media.

Our efficiency is a little higher, the ability to trap and hold dirt exceeds the amsoil filter by 3 grams, we use a stainless steel screen to support the filter media, your filter uses flimsy plastic.

As far as the "study" you all keep referring to, there is no part of that study where the guy actually tests the filters for well, Filtration!. He is a fan of old mopar K cars cutting open filters and offering a very unqualified opinion, nothing more. There is no part of the study where he tests filtering efficiency or capacity.

To the poster, if you want to try a state of the art extended life oil filter, email you address to me at Jay.Buckley@honeywell.com and I will send you a case of them.

This is getting interested. fight of the oil filter companies :roflpuke2:

Except Amsoil is not a filter maker, they slap their name on someone elses filter. This is not a "battle", we will be sticking to engineering facts and science.

Getting back to the purpose of the thread and away from opinionated comments, where do K&N and Royal Purple fit into the oil filter mix in terms of quality?

I know AK bought K&N and a few others like that particular brand, but I was leaning more toward buying Amsoil or Royal Purple. To me, both look like quality filters, but I'm no expert.

Also, I can't find Royal Purple's API group number anywhere. I've heard that it's in group IV, but I've also heard it's in group V. However, I also read that Group V oils are reserved for air compressors and similar motors because they're not compatible with petroleum-based fuels and can actually damage auto engines. :confused:

Which is lacking in this forum.:stirthepot:

The above video was conducted by an individual who took apart many oil filters made by some of the leading manufacturers in oil filtration. In his channel, you will see that he disassembled Wix, Purolator, Bosch, Mopar, Fram, STP, Mobil 1, and Microgard oil filters. From the video, you can see that the filter housing was the thickest, the anti-drainback valve was the largest, and the filter media was held together my metal end caps. I don't see any perforated plastic anywhere.

Here is an exploded view of an EaO oil filter:
http://www.amsoil.com/products/oil_a...lter_900px.jpg

Also, Amsoil's EaO oil filters have 98.7% filtering efficiency at 15 microns (ISO 4548-12). Looking at the Fram Extended Guard oil filter, I see they have 97% filtering efficiency, also according to ISO 4548-12, but for particles greater than 20 microns.

The only thing you were correct about, was the price. However, its obvious you get what you pay for.

well he is sending me free samples so I will try them. free filters why not