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tjlazer 04-05-2010 10:52 AM

Can the 370Z be push started?
 
I need to know asap, can a 6MT 370Z be push started if it won't start? Its getting 12V and I think there might be a problem with the ECU/IPDM

AK370Z 04-05-2010 10:59 AM

NO! Please DO NOT ATTEMPT this. You will damage your 370Z. It clearly states in the manual not to push start.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s.../pushstart.png

Xan 04-05-2010 11:02 AM

I would try an ECU reset, maybe it will help and the car might start again.

Regardless of the manual, I would even attempt to drive it if it doesn't start on it's own.
Who knows what you break in the process...

vipor 04-05-2010 11:25 AM

AK, that notice only refers to the AT models

tjlazer 04-05-2010 11:31 AM

Well im getting it towed...

AK370Z 04-05-2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 481714)
AK, that notice only refers to the AT models

I think the top line is for all models then below is the warning for Automatic models. Wouldn't the steering will be locked? Isn't the fuel injectors on the Z are electronic?

I mean, I want to know this as well but I would be really upset if the OP does big damage to his car.


Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 481722)
Well im getting it towed...

Good choice.

Caravanshaka 04-05-2010 11:46 AM

if you put the ignition to the on position everything should function normally if you can push start it. If it's under warranty then don't bother and let them pay for a towtruck to bring it into the dealership.

FastJew 04-05-2010 11:51 AM

I don't see how push starting a 6MT could cause any damage. You are just turning the flywheel with the clutch instead of the starter. Just make sure the ingnition is in the ON position (tap start twice without clutch depressed).

I kinda push started mine the other day just out of curiousity. With all the stuck throttle stories going around I was wondering how you would shut the car off in that situation. Turns out you must hold the start button for almost 3 seconds to get the engine to shutoff while rolling. Then simply tap the button twice back into the ON position put the car in the appropriate gear for your speed and let the clutch out. Voila, push start with no issues.

Now that being said if you have never done anything like this before DON'T TRY IT ON YOUR Z. There are several things that can go wrong if you are unfamiliar with push starting. If the vehicle is going too fast you can easily over rev the engine and cause damage (not likely pushing by hand). If your engine is not functioning properly the excessive turning over of a cold engine could damage things as well.

For me, If I knew the only problem with my car was a low battery or bad starter I would not hesitate to push start.:twocents:

AK370Z 04-05-2010 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastJew (Post 481757)
I kinda push started mine the other day just out of curiousity. With all the stuck throttle stories going around I was wondering how you would shut the car off in that situation. Turns out you must hold the start button for almost 3 seconds to get the engine to shutoff while rolling. Then simply tap the button twice back into the ON position put the car in the appropriate gear for your speed and let the clutch out. Voila, push start with no issues.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...Z_com/push.png

Yes, that's the emergency turn off procedure. Good to know.

steveg78 04-05-2010 12:17 PM

If you turn off while rolling does the steering wheel lock until you push the start button twice to ON? That would be SCARY!:eek:

vipor 04-05-2010 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveg78 (Post 481797)
If you turn off while rolling does the steering wheel lock until you push the start button twice to ON? That would be SCARY!:eek:

Steering wheel doesn't lock until you open your door.

Zsteve 04-05-2010 01:05 PM

but they are all push started. Push the start button they all start, except that one guy on here that cant get his started.

AK370Z 04-05-2010 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 481914)
but they are all push started. Push the start button they all start, except that one guy on here that cant get his started.

:icon17: When OP said push started, he meant physically pushing the whole car in neutral and the pop into 1st or 2nd gear. 6 speed cars CAN be started like this.

Zsteve 04-05-2010 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 481924)
:icon17: When OP said push started, he meant physically pushing the whole car in neutral and the pop into 1st or 2nd gear. 6 speed cars CAN be started like this.

yea I kno, Im at work and bored so Im in a wierd sense of humor way right now.

370Ztune 04-05-2010 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 482175)
yea I kno, Im at work and bored so Im in a wierd sense of humor way right now.

haha

tjlazer 04-08-2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 482175)
yea I kno, Im at work and bored so Im in a wierd sense of humor way right now.

The proper way to do it would be to add a ;) " ; ) " at the end of your statement so we all know you are kidding; otherwise we would think you were being serious. :)

j.arnaldo 04-08-2010 12:58 PM

On cars with catalytic converters, push-starting cars is never recommended. Hope you solve your prob' soon, man.

tjlazer 04-08-2010 02:25 PM

It's solved! It was a blown fuse in the driver kick panel. Push start Ing fuse blew.

370Zsteve 04-08-2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 481714)
AK, that notice only refers to the AT models

Nope it refers to manuals. would not stop me from doing it if I had to, though.

6SPD_FTW 04-08-2010 03:11 PM

So...just a neat little test on Nissans thought you guys would find kinda cool.

IPDM test, called the auto-active test:

Turn ignition ON with the driver's door open.
Press the door switch (in the door jamb) 5 times.
Turn ignition OFF.
Turn ignition ON.

Horn will chirp once and the oil pressure light will blink continuously.
Windshield wipers will run for 5 sec.
Park lights illuminate for 5 sec.
Headlights alternate between low and high beam for 5 sec.
A/C clutch kicks on and off 5 times
Coolant fans run at low then high for 5 sec.
Repeat times 3 and then done.

That is the IPDM E/R test.

Just another cool thing about Nissans.

Late,
Trav

6SPD_FTW 04-08-2010 09:55 PM

Oh wait....I think I goofed up.

Same instructions, but push the door jamb switch 10 times, rather than 5.

1slow370 04-09-2010 03:04 AM

FYI the edit button is your friend.

Ah the life of being able to screw off at work on the internet all day, i wish i could join you.

j.arnaldo 04-10-2010 02:14 PM

Sweet! Oh, and I forgot to mention the fact that you can get a reasonably-priced emergency battery booster for under $30 (I got mine for $27 at Pep Boys). They're great, just in case your battery--or anyone's in your family/neighborhood!--ever fails. You just keep it charged, and it's a problem-solver!

Zsteve 04-10-2010 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 486805)
The proper way to do it would be to add a ;) " ; ) " at the end of your statement so we all know you are kidding; otherwise we would think you were being serious. :)

Yea I know but i was in a WIERD sense of humor way. Kinda wanted it to come out that way.;)

370Zsteve 04-10-2010 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastJew (Post 481757)
I don't see how push starting a 6MT could cause any damage.

Dumping unburnt fuel into the catalysts. That can damage them. They are more expensive than a tow!

Troyz 07-25-2013 09:00 AM

Push Start versus Jump Start
 
Is it possible to start a 370Z M6 by push starting it? If yes, what gear and speed?
:ughdance:

Mitco39 07-25-2013 09:04 AM

Never done it but I would say it is possible. Id go 2nd gear and 20-30mph.

Question is why?

JARblue 07-25-2013 09:07 AM

Edited now that these posts are all in one place :tup:


It's not that you can't do it; it's just not recommended. Steve nailed it in post #25.

Troyz 07-25-2013 09:09 AM

Thanks! I am not having issues at this time. btw it would be cool if I could start it with voice command.

JARblue 07-25-2013 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troyz (Post 2418228)
btw it would be cool if I could start it with voice command.

something like this would be pretty sweet

Fountainhead 07-25-2013 01:58 PM

Speaking of starting off with push/roll, My Pinto, Every day I'd park on a hill at work and just let it roll down the hill in 2nd, pop the clutch and off I'd go! Sold it to a guy at 120,000 miles with same clutch and throwout bearing.....guess they overbuilt the drive train with that little fella. Of course no cats, haha.

Rusty 07-25-2013 04:42 PM

I've drift started my Nismo a couple of times. :tup: Parked on a hill facing down. Hold the brake on. Put on 2nd gear. No clutch. Pushed the start button a couple of times. Push clutch in, take foot off of brake. Start to roll down hill. Pop clutch pedal. It fired right up after about 30ft. :tup:

elperuano 07-25-2013 06:30 PM

Wow.. 3 year bump with the same exact question

Tazicon 07-25-2013 06:45 PM

And still the same answer, yes it can be done but it very well could cost you far more than a tow.

mhcoss 07-27-2013 02:02 PM

simple solution is to remove the cats. duh.


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