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TheSnakeJake 03-20-2010 05:57 PM

very loud clutch chatter when in first gear and i depress the clutch...
 
so i have 350 miles on my z now, and i am noticing this noise a lot more. when i am slowing driving in first gear (like when i am pulling into my garage) and i depress the clutch, the car makes a very loud chattering/banging noise and it is quite annoying. it happened a few times when i was in stop/go traffic today as well. is this the normal chatter that you guys talk about, or do i need to make a trip to the dealership?

Modshack 03-20-2010 06:13 PM

Sounds like you're waiting too long to depress the clutch... TRy depressing and slipping it a bit when you're at very slow speeds..

TheSnakeJake 03-20-2010 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 456342)
Sounds like you're waiting too long to depress the clutch... TRy depressing and slipping it a bit when you're at very slow speeds..

so you are suggesting to slip the clutch on decel? in all the manual cars i have owned/driven, i have never had to slip the clutch when coming to a stop in first gear...

mick 03-20-2010 06:44 PM

i am pretty sure mine does not make any noise, let alone a loud one. sounds like you need to have the dealer check it out.

Snakes709 03-20-2010 07:40 PM

My Z has made that noise from day one. I now have 10,600km on the car and its still doing it but still going strong.

JB-370z 03-20-2010 07:41 PM

This is normal nothing to worry about. From porsches to corvetts they all have chatter and make noises when oulling out of first and in neutral

CBRich 03-20-2010 07:42 PM

Got it here too.

Modshack 03-20-2010 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSnakeJake (Post 456349)
i have never had to slip the clutch when coming to a stop in first gear...

???...You don't slip it, you disengage it....your description sounds more like driver error than anything wrong with the car...First manual trans?

TheSnakeJake 03-20-2010 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 456458)
???...You don't slip it, you disengage it....

i guess i am confused on your suggestion in the earlier post...

the noise happens when i am slowly rolling into my garage in first gear and when i push in the clutch as i am coming inside, the chatter/banging noise happens right then. so slipping the clutch at that time didn't make sense to me...

TheSnakeJake 03-20-2010 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 456458)
???...You don't slip it, you disengage it....your description sounds more like driver error than anything wrong with the car...First manual trans?

it's not driver error dude. i have to push in the clutch before i stop or the car will stall. i have owned over 10 manual transmission vehicles. most recently a '02 z06 vette and before that a '03 cobra. not to mention the manual jeeps i have had as off road toys where slow speed/crawling clutch action is required. trust me, it's not driver error...

coaster 03-20-2010 08:44 PM

I believe this is normal. I have a similar situation with my car too. When I depress the clutch, sometimes, I feel a slight tapping. Are you having a similar situation?

antennahead 03-20-2010 08:47 PM

These cars are known for this, the 350 as well. I can make my clutch make that loud chatter "if" I slam it to the floor too fast. You learn the smooth motion that is necessary to avoid the chatter. Mine never chatters, "but", I can make it do it everytime "if" I don't work it properly. Same thing Mod said, "You don't slip it, you disengage it"

TheSnakeJake 03-20-2010 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coaster (Post 456498)
I believe this is normal. I have a similar situation with my car too. When I depress the clutch, sometimes, I feel a slight tapping. Are you having a similar situation?

yes, it is kindof a tapping noise. but it is not slight, it is quite loud...

TheSnakeJake 03-20-2010 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 456500)
Same thing Mod said, "You don't slip it, you disengage it"

first he said to slip it. then he said don't slip it, disengage it...

Endgame 03-20-2010 09:22 PM

happens to me to.. but i know it happens when i disengage the clutch too quickly.... i just need to do it more slowly...

antennahead 03-20-2010 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 456548)
happens to me to.. but i know it happens when i disengage the clutch too quickly.... i just need to do it more slowly...

Same here, if you slam it too quick, lots of chatter......... if you disengage it smoothly, even in a hurry, no chatter.

TheSnakeJake 03-20-2010 09:33 PM

so it seems that this is normal if you disengage the clutch too quickly... but, what exactly is the issue that causes the noise?

coaster 03-20-2010 10:21 PM

Also, I notice it happens a lot after the car is warmed up. It happens everytime I'm parking the car into my garage (incline). Not sure what cause's the noise though.

Modshack 03-21-2010 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSnakeJake (Post 456461)
i guess i am confused on your suggestion in the earlier post...

Clearly...as I apparently am from your original description

Quote:

Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 456500)
You learn the smooth motion that is necessary to avoid the chatter. Mine never chatters, "but", I can make it do it everytime "if" I don't work it properly. Same thing Mod said, "You don't slip it, you disengage it"

My car makes no such noise.
Maybe you'll figure it out.....Others apparently have. Good luck !

normal 03-22-2010 09:32 AM

I have found that I get a banging noise if I am in first and fully let off the gas and coast a couple seconds, then disengage the clutch, but if instead as soon as I get off the gas I disengage the clutch, it typically doesnt make the noise.

370Zsteve 03-22-2010 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 456458)
???...You don't slip it, you disengage it....your description sounds more like driver error than anything wrong with the car...First manual trans?

:drama:

370Zsteve 03-22-2010 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSnakeJake (Post 456464)
it's not driver error dude. i have to push in the clutch before i stop or the car will stall. trust me, it's not driver error...

Dude! What car wouldn't stall if the clutch was out, in gear and the car was stopped? Not driver error, then maybe driver ignorance, I dunno.

:drama:

370zFORme!! 03-22-2010 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 458521)
Dude! What car wouldn't stall if the clutch was out, in gear and the car was stopped? Not driver error, then maybe driver ignorance, I dunno.

:drama:

:bowrofl:

Jake man dont worry, I have the same chatter if I slam the clutch just like Antennahead suggested earlier. But if you dissengage the clutch slowly and in control, you'll be fine. You have to ease it in like a gentleman. You cant just ram it home. :tup:

bluestyle55 03-22-2010 11:34 AM

I get the same chatter in 1st… disengaging the clutch slower typically does the trick.

TheSnakeJake 03-22-2010 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 458521)
Dude! What car wouldn't stall if the clutch was out, in gear and the car was stopped? Not driver error, then maybe driver ignorance, I dunno.

:drama:

that was my point. i guess it went over your head, ignorant one. :rolleyes:

Mize 03-22-2010 12:30 PM

Mine does it as have other cars I've owned. The loudest was an '89 VW Corrado SLC. Usually you won't hear it unless you've got a nice acoustic reflector near the car (garage walls, nearby vehicles) and your window open.

coaster 03-22-2010 11:40 PM

So earlier I started my car, depressed the clutch to go into reverse and the sound was present. It happens randomly really which is strange. I also notice that if the sound is present, I can put my car in neutral, rev to about 3k rpm, and the sound/vibration disappears when I depress the clutch. Strange, I know. :-\

TheSnakeJake 03-23-2010 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coaster (Post 459862)
So earlier I started my car, depressed the clutch to go into reverse and the sound was present. It happens randomly really which is strange. I also notice that if the sound is present, I can put my car in neutral, rev to about 3k rpm, and the sound/vibration disappears when I depress the clutch. Strange, I know. :-\

that is definitely different than what i am experiencing...

kuhan 03-24-2010 05:04 PM

I have 08 350Z mt, and I'm experiencing the same problem.

I heard a louder sound after I shifted 1st gear to N and released the clutch. While in N, if I released the clutch, then I'd hear a quieter chattering sound.

I'll try to release the clutch slower to see if the chattering will go away. Thanks for the info.

JB-370z 03-24-2010 06:31 PM

OMG some of you act like you have never had to slip the clutch in a hurry! Some people sure make this board and unpleasent place to get answers from.
The answer is YES chatter is normal! Not just our cars, alot of cars do, the GT3 RS has such loud chatter some say it is like nails on a chalkboard. Having to some time slip the clutch in first is also normal to all you professional drivers we seem to have in this thread.

kidquick 04-25-2010 12:07 AM

worst clutch ever
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 456548)
happens to me to.. but i know it happens when i disengage the clutch too quickly.... i just need to do it more slowly...

all i have to say is the clutch in this car is terrible.


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