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1slow370 05-31-2012 06:22 AM

put a momentary interrupt button in the center console connected to the power wire of the yaw sensor by the shifter once power is cut to it the ecu alarms and shuts off the ENTIRE traction control system including the electronic differential braking(not the abs this is supposed to turn an open diff into a locker by braking the wheel with less traction). order just disconnect the yaw sensor. to kill the abs you need to put a switch in by the brake sensor(note not the one for the cruise control) if you don't want to pull fuses. the motor has an anti-toyota feature in which if you push the brake and gas at the same time it shuts off the motor so this switch is for burnouts. with both switches just turn off the car and turn it back on and everything should clear.

Shamu 05-31-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 1746154)
put a momentary interrupt button in the center console connected to the power wire of the yaw sensor by the shifter once power is cut to it the ecu alarms and shuts off the ENTIRE traction control system including the electronic differential braking(not the abs this is supposed to turn an open diff into a locker by braking the wheel with less traction). order just disconnect the yaw sensor. to kill the abs you need to put a switch in by the brake sensor(note not the one for the cruise control) if you don't want to pull fuses. the motor has an anti-toyota feature in which if you push the brake and gas at the same time it shuts off the motor so this switch is for burnouts. with both switches just turn off the car and turn it back on and everything should clear.

Do nismos have differnt system? My car spins wheels to oblivian with VCD switched off? In fact for AX I'd love to have ABLS as it would help control my power oversteer. ...or Maybe becuase I have supercharged car its overpowering ABLS?

Anyone truly educated in our cars systems? I know wwhen my car was naturally aspirated I only ran with ABS and VCD fuses pulled so never had intrustion. We fixed abs ice mode after I installed supercharger so I dont notice any thing.

Z1NONLY 05-31-2012 05:17 PM

I have tracked two Nismo 370Z and don't remember any issues with the VDC jumping in after being deactivated.

-And I got one of those Nismo's rather out of shape.

ChrisSlicks 05-31-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1747209)
Do nismos have differnt system? My car spins wheels to oblivian with VCD switched off? In fact for AX I'd love to have ABLS as it would help control my power oversteer. ...or Maybe becuase I have supercharged car its overpowering ABLS?

ABLS doesn't prevent wheelspin if both rear wheels are spinning at the same rate. It prevents inside wheel spin if one rear wheel is spinning excessively faster than the outside rear wheel. In a Sport or a Nismo this is pretty much only going to happen when turning with the outside rear planted but loaded, and with enough suspension travel such that the inside wheel is light.

In auto-x and track driving you should almost never see ABLS intervene, and even if it did you probably wouldn't notice. It won't prevent you spinning out if you are mashing the gas with VDC off. It is an issue for track drifting since you need maximum wheel spin, but in all other track cases it is a non-issue.

scottIN 05-31-2012 07:33 PM

A buddy of mine that likes to drive...uh...a bit aggressively was driving my car. Got it sideways through an intersection & VDC kicked in. He asked me "Where's the button to turn the traction control off?" My answer..."Oh, it's in the trunk."

1slow370 06-01-2012 02:54 AM

the nismo abs and vdc is the same. yeah if ur putting down 400hp+ ur not gonna notice it. the only way you really do notice it is when you have vdc off and the slip light flashes for a second.the second level of traction control is very non intrusive so most people don't know its there until the light flashes at them. i find it only works at high rates of speed when the rear starts walking out exiting a corner.

Joepro 10-03-2012 10:14 PM

reviving with my experience, whether abls or what not, some form of system is still active, this does pev me off a bit about the 370 vs the 350z. Turn off the 350's vdc and it was play time, the 370, nope, grabbed second gear in a rolling burn out and bam, it held the car a 5k and braked the wheels until I pushed the clutch in. NO FUN NISSAN.

Ajobie 10-04-2012 05:19 AM

This was one of the first things I noticed once I started to play around with my Z. I did a lot of experimenting to see if I could find some way to disable it. I'm not sure if this trick works or I'm doing something else different, but turning off my synchro rev match seems to help. I doubt this is the case, but honestly at this point, I just don't know.

ChrisSlicks 10-04-2012 06:45 AM

For you tire shredding burnout kinds just disable it. The controller is under the center console next to the e-brake.

kenny's 370z 10-04-2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1944268)
For you tire shredding burnout kinds just disable it. The controller is under the center console next to the e-brake.

mine is unplugged and is staying that way.too much of the ecu's involvement when i dont want it to be.

nismo09 10-04-2012 08:27 PM

I have driven many 30 minute sessions (204 so far) with TC off and never had the yellow light come on. Never had a problem with this. I have an 09. Seems strange.

ChrisSlicks 10-04-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nismo09 (Post 1945399)
I have driven many 30 minute sessions (204 so far) with TC off and never had the yellow light come on. Never had a problem with this. I have an 09. Seems strange.

It's not a problem on track at all, never has been for me either. ABLS only kicks in when there is a massively wheel speed differential between front and rear or rear to rear, so basically drifting, burnouts etc. I'm not into that stuff myself since I like my very expensive rubber :) You're also more likely to get it in an open diff car vs a LSD Sport/Nismo.

Q8y_drifter 10-06-2012 06:47 AM

ABLS does intrude when drifting especially in 2nd gear when the rear wheel speed is far greater than the front. Both my friend (350Z) and I (G sedan) have felt it. It feels just like ABS pulsating separate corners at a time. It doesn't stop the car completely but it does affect the way it drives and acts in a drift. It's more like a stability control than anything else. We both have LSDs. Below is a pic from our last session.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...24633435_n.jpg

jinkang612 11-10-2012 07:26 PM

yea i kinda know what you guys are talking about...
 
i drift my 09 370z 6spd mt you need to unplug the box in the center councel and thats it... it was a pain in the a$$ to figure it out we pulled fuses cut wires bla bla bla and that light kept going on and we ended up going to our friends shop Deeps Garage and he said pretty much that even if you turn the VDC off it never completly turns off it will cause the rear to apply slight amount of brake pressure to your rear the switch on the brake and throtle causes your car to shut off so you cant do a simple burnout. just unplug that center box located in the center councle were your E-brake is and unplug. if you want to get fancy get a switch made for you so you can pretty much turn it off COMPLETLY !!!!!!!!!!!! hahaha if you need anymore info hit me up

34ST 11-15-2012 12:53 PM

All u need to do is to cut in the on/off switch to yaw rate sensor. This will make your VDC completely off, but your VDC and SLIP light stays on though.


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