my installer said it was a blown line, but i suspect it was not fully attached... again, not the GTM kit, but lesson learned is to use the highest quality components and 3x check fittings when it comes to the oiling system... the pump on this car has a very high throughput and moves a lot of oil in short order in order to keep the upper end of the motor cool... so when these sorts of things happen, you have very little time to react and get the motor turned off

Seems to me like an oil pressure gauge is a definite must.

I am planning on building my own kit and will be using the aeroquip socketless hoses.

Did you reset the ECU?

i'm not going to say this was the original posters problem ( i don't know nearly enough about the product, or install to even guess), but this brought up a good reminder. When you guys do the installs on these kits, the hoses MUST have some slack in them. The engine is not solid mounted to the chassis so as the engine moves under down shifts, and up shifts, it will pull on the hoses if they are too tight and rigidly mounted to the sub frame. That is probably one of the few ways i could see there being enough force to yank a hose end off of a JIC hose assembly like that. Assuming it was properly assembled of course.

Definitely on the gauge... I'm using a spa dual water/oil temp gauge in place of the clock... and for those that haven't seen it, check out Lou's TT build thread and look for the pics of his new gauges!

that's a good point sam... op, any thoughts? was there enough slack?

Lou's Defi gauges are f'ing nice, but I'm sure they cost a pretty penny.

I wouldn't mind replacing the clock with an oil pressure gauge... even if it's just some Autometer.

I think the gauges are around $2-300 each but top of the line, need the control unit as well. To the OP if you are selling your oil cooler let me know. I agree with the members who have said that the aftermarket for the Z is going strong. These things happen hopefully GTM can chime in their take since it's there kit. Did you leave any slack on the lines because I could see how that could cause this.

Yup. Even the Defi analog gauges are ~$250.

On my journal I will have a part out as soon as I can get rough idea of what I can sell and how I am going to ship the parts since my truck is 2 hours away from me right now. I will post it in the for sale section since its where it belongs but until i will update it on the progession thread. Still need to make sure the oil didnt damage the o2 sensors on the instake. Its all over the sensors especially the passenger side. And yes, believe me when I say we tried everything to basically make the oil cooler fail before I filled the block and started the car. It had enough slack but not too much to where it may snag on something from an abrupt shift in weight or shock to the car. It was just faulty I will take more pics of the actual AN fitted and closer pics of the hose. I think the oil should have purged out of the core by now.

Man I feel for you I do, I just got an oil change done with ester and we all know that sht doesn't come cheap, good luck and hope it all turns out OK.

Everybody should have DeFi gauges!!

FREE Defi Gauges @ Lou Fusz Nissan! Get them with your brand new FREE ECU!!! :icon18::icon18::icon18::icon18:

I think you have me confused with someone else.

oh yeah, my bad

:bowrofl::bowrofl:

Knock it off!...lol

I'll take one. you ship to hawai? Thx brah :tup:

First of all we do apologize for any inconvenience we may have caused. a replacement hose has been sent out last week with a return shipping label so we can get the old part back to further investigate what caused this issue.

Couple of points that i would like to make, This is the first time that we had this happen and we have sold lot of thees kits, Now defiantly a mistake could have been made in the proses of assembling the hose, but also base on the picture you posted above there is really no slack to the oil cooler hoses what so ever and with the engine torquing against them could cause the problem you're having .

Sam

^ not to disagree or agree, but even if there was slack you wouldnt be able to see it in that picture. I'm not really interested in blaming anyone, these things happen even to the best dealers every now and then.

:iagree: Sam is just lucky this didn't take the engine out with it or I suspect the tone here would be a little different. Stuff happens. Tardcore was EXTREMELY luck on this one (as was GTM)

I completely agree. A "whew!" moment for both of them.

thanks Sam. I wish the motor would have seised. I could have a valid excuse to not go to work and still get paid for a week or so :tup:

You really dont want that car...I think its time for a trade in...

:iagree: but I havent decided if a Z06 is worth all the money I have saved for a house in the passed 3 years, or if a GS is worth half of it. But I guess I can wait and drive the ranger and leave the Z with low miles until I decide.

Please don't spend money you've saved for a house on a car.

haha this thread makes me want to bust out the facepalm in more than few ways.

why? Nothing happened to the Z except it got a bath in oil, GTM is sending me new hoses, demonstrating their great service even though they are not sure of the cause. Id say its more a of a :happydance: moment. I will be sending them the hose that became disconnected and hopefully they can shed some light by their analysis. I can't tell from the looks of the AN fitting and the hose so hopefully they can. And if they do determine it was my fault, I'll pay them for the new hoses they sent me because at this point; I really don't care about the money I put into the Z and I really want to move on. I sure it wont be that easy though since I still need to figure out what to about the oil lol

Well if you don't care just drop 10 stacks on her go F/i and laugh at the vette dealership as you drive past. Then take her to a strip and lay some c6 smackdown. The car has the handling, looks, and features you just need the power next.

10k won't be enough for a proper FI setup. If you're goal is to "laugh" at Vettes, all it takes is one cammed C6 for you to realize you wasted your money.

I was able to pass Vettes at the track this weekend. I was never passed by one either. Granted it was the Green group, but still. Same skill level (I was probably behind, first time at a track) and a lot less car (supposedly). Yeah they were faster in the straight by a little, but I could hold a better line and turn tighter.

That's probably more a factor of you being a little more daring than them. :)

I could pass a 911 turbo riding my bicycle in an HPDE if the driver is a total nanny. :tup:

Were you planning on getting a Z06 or just a base c6? A base c6 will need some work to get up to 550whp as a boosted z34 will. Z06 on the other hand......:hello:

Either way, it will require less work than the Z. :tup:

My friend has an 08 C6 and I raced him and he smoked me... bad. he even did it from a dig with another person in his car (and both of them weigh about 200) and I could launch the Z at about 4800 rpms and catch quicker and he still smoked me off the line. I dont think a "stage 1" FI Z could keep up with a C6 Z06 in a straightline. You gotta figure the amount of money you put into it for anything MORE than about 450hp at the wheels is going to add up, make it less of a daily driver, less reliable and more trivial issues. Think about what a an LS3 is putting to the wheels, then add the power to weight, then you have the Z06, weighs less than most, if not all, cars from the factory that put out that power. And vettes are hard to drive for beginners and I know this first hand! When I test drove the grand sport the dumb *** salesman kept telling me "cmon give her some gas feel! the power" I said I am fine and just more or less getting the feel of driving it. SO on the way back to dealer I let him drive it and he broke it loose around a corner in 2nd unintentionally and nearly wrecked it into one of those 1 foot tall curbs. So I am not supprised to Z a outhandle a vette with an inexperienced driver behind the wheel. The Z is a good car, I think its the best car for the money at this moment besides the GTR. I am planning on getting the Z06 or grand sport. The thing about the Z06 is it loses value so quick I might as well wait til 2011 and get a 2010 new or even a 2009 used but with low mile from test drives. All the 2010 have launch control now and it doesnt void the warranty lol. No one buys Z06s anyway as they are not practical and I have seen 2008s with less than 1000 miles on them at dealers when I was looking around.

Not blown just leaking
 

http://www.the370z.com/gt-motoring/1...n-leaking.html

I posted the above thread in the wrong place :shakes head:

Awesome story bro.

Just to throw this out there. The service manual lists some ballpark oil pressures. Wonder what the pressure is when at really high RPMs...

Idle >14psi
2,000 RPM >43psi

I don't think pressure is an issue here. Both Types of hoses, socketed and socketless are rated at 250 PSI or more.

On a cold engine you may see 70-80 PSI, when warmed typical pressures at speed rarely exceed 60 PSI on most cars.

I've posted my theory in the Modshack Ol Cooler DIY...

Hoses coming off socketless fittings, lines bursting on crimped fittings,..

Starting to wonder if a blown engine is worth it as well as all the worrying just to keep oil temps down. Im changing my oil without installing an oil cooler till more info gets posted. I already have my RacerParts kit and was going to install this morning until I read about the socketless problems for a refresher this morning. A few hours ago I ordered crimped hoses from Mike and will wait for them. And just now I read about crimped hoses coming off, albeit from a vendor, but I hate to have reliability problems as well as have to worry about the lines all the time and contemplating doing this at all...

I mean, how do you test a crimped fitting without stressing the fitting itself "before" putting on your car as wouldn't this weaken a strong crimp in the first place? :confused:

The variable appears to be the install. Since many people succesfully run any and all of the hose combinations (My socketless set-up has been fine for 3500 miles), It pretty much boils down to install variances. My observations on this: