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THE BULL 05-27-2022 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fryzia23 (Post 4025693)
I installed their pump with their billet cover with 2 relief shims already preinstalled from boundary. Hope it won't give me any issues with oil pressure

These gears with 2 added shims to the relief should be yielding higher cold start numbers. A contaminated relief should yield higher numbers.

Lower numbers can be contributed to excess bearing play, damaged gears, leaking oil pump housing, blocked oil pick up, relief collapsing due to really high initial pressures (somewhat unlikely)

Throw oil filters every 1k miles and open your old ones, these should give you better insight if you're wearing prematurely.

Rojoryu 05-27-2022 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by THE BULL (Post 4025699)
These gears with 2 added shims to the relief should be yielding higher cold start numbers. A contaminated relief should yield higher numbers.

Lower numbers can be contributed to excess bearing play, damaged gears, leaking oil pump housing, blocked oil pick up, relief collapsing due to really high initial pressures (somewhat unlikely)

Throw oil filters every 1k miles and open your old ones, these should give you better insight if you're wearing prematurely.

I didnt use any shims. Also, it’s been warm the past few weeks. The PSI mentioned is on a 85-90 degree day.

Rojoryu 05-27-2022 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4025686)
That's low, it should be in the 100's. I beat you have an issue with the boundary gears. It has happened before on a new engine build. I suggest you go back to a new Nissan pump or get the Nismo pump. You could also be seeing
bearing related issues. Either way, you have an issue going on.

For what it's worth, the only time I have ever broken over 100 PSI on this particular car is a cold start in the Winter.

Rojoryu 05-28-2022 08:12 AM

I called Boundary yesterday and they do recommend shimming +2 for the VQ platform. If I would have been more patient and done more research I would have figured that out before buttoning the engine up last year. Lessons learned. I purchased a low mileage replacement engine yesterday as well as the full pump assembly from Boundary. This will give me a fresh(er) motor to track with and I’ll keep the current engine on a stand to tinker on.

THE BULL 06-09-2022 08:10 AM

I keep reading that these pumps should be shimmed.

The extra pressure will do numbers on that relief.

Luckily for you, you can access the relief just by taking off the oil pan, may want to try this before just in case.

DrBacon 06-22-2022 03:59 PM

As previously mentioned, I'd guess the oil pump pressure relief valve is sticky and stuck open. Shims won't do anything to fix this other than just making it harder to open that valve in the first place. Replace the relief valve, it should be accessible if I recall right with only the oil pan removed.

THE BULL 06-24-2022 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 4026679)
As previously mentioned, I'd guess the oil pump pressure relief valve is sticky and stuck open. Shims won't do anything to fix this other than just making it harder to open that valve in the first place. Replace the relief valve, it should be accessible if I recall right with only the oil pan removed.

Yes and no, the added volume and pressure this pump puts out might be triggering the relief too early causing a massive dump of pressure making it seem like it's sticking which is why a shim would work. It would compensate this force by compressing the spring a bit more.

Rojoryu 06-26-2022 03:17 PM

I ended up getting a 2015 motor with 39k miles on it from an Infinity. I am having a shop install a full boundary pump assembly with +2 shims as well as remove the old motor and install the new one (hand surgery has me out of the garage for a while). Once it's all said and done I will do a new pump on the old engine and keep it as a spare. Question, the Infinity has the stock oil cooler so is that just extra cooling power coupled with my 34 row?

fryzia23 06-28-2022 03:45 PM

My oil pressure findings on my newly built engine with complete boundary oil pump with billet plate and 2 shims:
at 190-200F oil temp it runs about 35psi idle. Higher rpms and more load I already see 130psi or more. Definitely there is more oil pressure than stock pump. I have my oil pressure sensor connected to oil filter relocation sandwich plate.


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