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redondoaveb 05-06-2021 05:38 PM

Fuel injector testing and cleaning
 
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Well, that's not good :eek:

Hotrodz 05-06-2021 05:42 PM

Well it looks like you are good to go after cleaning.

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redondoaveb 05-06-2021 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3994323)
Well it looks like you are good to go after cleaning.

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Sure are. Since I don't know crap about fuel injectors, I wonder if those low flow rates contributed to my motor blowing? And, I wonder why injector #4 was wide open? Was it stuck wide open?

Hotrodz 05-06-2021 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3994325)
Sure are. Since I don't know crap about fuel injectors, I wonder if those low flow rates contributed to my motor blowing? And, I wonder why injector #4 was wide open? Was it stuck wide open?

That was my first thought as well!

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redondoaveb 05-06-2021 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3994326)
That was my first thought as well!

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That wasn't a lot of miles either. Pump e85 is hard on injectors. I guess I'm going to need to run a tank of pump gas through it more often

Hotrodz 05-06-2021 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3994329)
That wasn't a lot of miles either. Pump e85 is hard on injectors. I guess I'm going to need to run a tank of pump gas through it more often

Yep, pump e85 can be rough on injectors and fuel pumps. I just received a barrel Sunoco e85-r which is race e85 so it should be pretty clean.

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redondoaveb 05-06-2021 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3994338)
Yep, pump e85 can be rough on injectors and fuel pumps. I just received a barrel Sunoco e85-r which is race e85 so it should be pretty clean.

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Definitely the way to go. I have Seb on the line right now. I'm going to go over the results with him

Spooler 05-06-2021 08:36 PM

That's what got you. Did you have the injectors cleaned before you started using them again? That was one of my worst fears. I had mine cleaned and tested when they put my new motor in. They also drained the tank of the pump E85 in it.

redondoaveb 05-06-2021 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3994351)
That's what got you. Did you have the injectors cleaned before you started using them again? That was one of my worst fears. I had mine cleaned and tested when they put my new motor in. They also drained the tank of the pump E85 in it.

Nope, I didn't. Big mistake. If the one injector that was wide open was stuck wide open, it could have hydrolocked the motor also. Under boost with both fuel pumps going, that's a lot of fuel being dumped into the cylinder. I'll also have the old e85 drained this next go round. It looks like I will probably be going with the stage (Seb) turbos :icon17: instead of the stage 1. Unfortunately, they won't be available until August/September so my cars going to sit a few more months.

Spooler 05-06-2021 08:46 PM

See about installing an Injector Dynamic's ID-750 fuel filter. I have one. My injectors were good to go. I attribute it to the fuel filter.

Spooler 05-06-2021 08:54 PM

Watch this again. It was posted in my thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKkTyUKnyuc

redondoaveb 05-06-2021 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3994354)
See about installing an Injector Dynamic's ID-750 fuel filter. I have one. My injectors were good to go. I attribute it to the fuel filter.

Good idea, I'll talk to Seb about it

redondoaveb 05-06-2021 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3994355)
Watch this again. It was posted in my thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKkTyUKnyuc

I like that filter. Seb really likes it too. There will definitely be one going on my car. Thanks for the tip :tiphat:

Spooler 05-06-2021 10:04 PM

Another great video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm7_TEzwNGg

redondoaveb 05-06-2021 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3994368)

Definitely a great video

Spooler 05-07-2021 08:14 AM

Sounds like the guy on Instagram works on diesel trucks. That's a whole new animal. Common rail diesels run a max of 20 to 24,000 psi of rail pressure to feed the injectors.

redondoaveb 05-07-2021 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3994417)
Sounds like the guy on Instagram works on diesel trucks. That's a whole new animal. Common rail diesels run a max of 20 to 24,000 psi of rail pressure to feed the injectors.

Yep, he was making the comparison to the diesel trucks he works on

DrBacon 05-23-2021 12:42 AM

How often did you flush the fuel system with a tank of just gas? Thinking of running ethanol later this summer and rather not constantly pull injectors to get them cleaned. Hoping running gas occasionally will prevent problems.

Spooler 05-23-2021 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 3996040)
How often did you flush the fuel system with a tank of just gas? Thinking of running ethanol later this summer and rather not constantly pull injectors to get them cleaned. Hoping running gas occasionally will prevent problems.

I only ran one tank of gas in 7k miles. The rest was on pump E85. Run a proper filter and it is not a problem as long as the car is used regularly. If the car is going to sit for several months, pickle the fuel system with Gas.

ImportConvert 05-23-2021 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3994322)
Well, that's not good :eek:

I only use top tier. Ethanol free typically. It really does, no-**** matter.

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...h-extra-price/

redondoaveb 05-23-2021 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 3996102)
I only use top tier. Ethanol free typically. It really does, no-**** matter.

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...h-extra-price/

I run e85 99% of the time

ImportConvert 05-23-2021 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3996103)
I run e85 99% of the time

Makes sense given your tune. Funny thing is when E85 came out, lotta dudes were saying their tear downs were SUPER CLEAN and had pictures and all.

redondoaveb 05-23-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 3996040)
How often did you flush the fuel system with a tank of just gas? Thinking of running ethanol later this summer and rather not constantly pull injectors to get them cleaned. Hoping running gas occasionally will prevent problems.

My tuner suggests after a few tanks of e85 to run a tank of pump gas. I think my issue might have been that my car being down for 6 months and then driving it to burn all the e85 out of it to get it ready for tuning purposes. Spooler mentions it in his post.

redondoaveb 05-23-2021 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 3996104)
Makes sense given your tune. Funny thing is when E85 came out, lotta dudes were saying their tear downs were SUPER CLEAN and had pictures and all.

My car sat for about six months with a tank of e85 in it while I was doing my blower conversion. I then drove it to drain the tank so I could put some 91 in it for my new tune. That tank of e85 might have gone bad. I'm not sure though.

Spooler 05-23-2021 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3996107)
My car sat for about six months with a tank of e85 in it while I was doing my blower conversion. I then drove it to drain the tank so I could put some 91 in it for my new tune. That tank of e85 might have gone bad. I'm not sure though.

That was your down fall. Sitting with E85 in the tank is not good. Mine sat for a while hence why I had the tank drained and the injectors cleaned just to be safe. I didn't want to damage a brand new engine. The fuel filter keep all the junk out.

Spooler 05-23-2021 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 3996104)
Makes sense given your tune. Funny thing is when E85 came out, lotta dudes were saying their tear downs were SUPER CLEAN and had pictures and all.

They are very clean. I have my old pistons and rods.

redondoaveb 05-23-2021 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3996123)
That was your down fall. Sitting with E85 in the tank is not good. Mine sat for a while hence why I had the tank drained and the injectors cleaned just to be safe. I didn't want to damage a brand new engine. The fuel filter keep all the junk out.

And my car's sitting with e85 in it again. I'll make sure Seb has it drained and flushed if necessary. I'm definitely buying the Injector Dynamics filter you recommend


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