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-   -   First Oil Change: Mobile 1 or Castrol Syntec? (http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivetrain/13407-first-oil-change-mobile-1-castrol-syntec.html)

vipor 01-21-2010 03:50 PM
most are doing theirs by the standard 3k mark. some earlier. up to you really. the car does not come with synthetic oil

Spartan 1771 01-21-2010 03:52 PM
Interesting.

Nissan: "We recommend using synthetic oil in this car". Then they ship it out with regular oil.

A case of: Do as I say, not as I do.

m4a1mustang 01-21-2010 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771 (Post 369257)
Um, I hate rachel ray. Her mindless drivel is like nails on a chalk board to my ears.

Anyway.........................

I don't have ramps, but I do have a good floor jack and a set of jack stands, so I think I'll be good. Any recommendations on when I should do my first change? The car just hit 1,700 miles.
Check to make sure your floor jack is low enough to get under the front of the car. Mine isn't, so my quick fix was to buy ramps instead of spending $200+ for a real nice low profile jack (which I will do eventually).

As far as the first change... do it whenever. I'd check your oil levels now to see what the burn rate is like and also check the condition of the oil. You may want to change it sooner rather than later.

You'll probably have a bit of oil burn for the first several thousand miles. I think I stabilized at little to no burn per 1,000 miles after my second oil change.

SigPapa226 01-21-2010 04:08 PM
:stirthepot:

Check out this thread:

Nissan Ester Oils? - Bob Is The Oil Guy

vipor 01-21-2010 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771 (Post 369270)
Interesting.

Nissan: "We recommend using synthetic oil in this car". Then they ship it out with regular oil.

A case of: Do as I say, not as I do.
i went through all that with the financing guy at the dealership. "would you like to buy our service plan?" i ask what it consists of.. "oil changes, tire rotations, etc." i ask if it covers synthetic oil or ester oil. "nope." then i ask if they'll unmount the tires to switch them side to side (didn't know the tires had an outside and inside at the time.) "nope."

kinda funny. they should put a disclaimer on the Z stating not to offer that service.

vipor 01-21-2010 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 369297)
I'd check your oil levels now to see what the burn rate is like and also check the condition of the oil. You may want to change it sooner rather than later.

You'll probably have a bit of oil burn for the first several thousand miles. I think I stabilized at little to no burn per 1,000 miles after my second oil change.
i think i was 3/4qt low at about 2.5k miles and have been staying at the "H" mark ever since my first change. seems others haven't been as lucky, so definitely keep an eye on it for the first 5-10k. i just check mine every 1-1.5k now, although i'm doing my 2nd change this weekend. should be roughly 7550 miles by then with the first change (to mobil 1) at 3250. adding a cooler though so it's necessary to change.

m4a1mustang 01-21-2010 04:19 PM
I am changing my oil next weekend. I'll be around 15k, so I am also replacing the transmission fluid with MT-90.

vipor 01-21-2010 04:27 PM
me dos! doing all 3 fluid changes on sat :excited:!!!!

http://www.the370z.com/members/vipor...coola-here.jpg

m4a1mustang 01-21-2010 04:32 PM
Nice! If I can I may replace the brake pads as well.

TARDCORE 01-21-2010 08:33 PM
wait... who is racheal ray? :ughdance:

jpit 01-21-2010 09:55 PM
After reading the info on the Nissan Ester oil on bobistheoilguy's site, I can't see anyone using anything other than this oil - especially if you are changing your oil every 3500-4000 miles. A couple of interesting notes from that article: the ester additive is different than the ester based Redline and Amsoil oil and the Hydrogen free DLC coating is a Nissan patent, is expensive, and not available in any other oil. I recommend reading the entire article.

TARDCORE 01-21-2010 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jpit (Post 369746)
After reading the info on the Nissan Ester oil on bobistheoilguy's site, I can't see anyone using anything other than this oil - especially if you are changing your oil every 3500-4000 miles. A couple of interesting notes from that article: the ester additive is different than the ester based Redline and Amsoil oil and the Hydrogen free DLC coating is a Nissan patent, is expensive, and not available in any other oil. I recommend reading the entire article.
totally understand what you're saying but there is reason why winning race teams use different oils. Its all passed and present experiences. Sponsorships. Money. And the average person uses his/her preferred oil based either on research like you did, criticisms, or recommendations. I will probably use royal purple on my first oil change since tests have shown it has a lighter wieght than most group v's. But I may use redline since AK and many others on this site are using it :p

HKYStormFront 01-22-2010 06:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jpit (Post 369746)
After reading the info on the Nissan Ester oil on bobistheoilguy's site, I can't see anyone using anything other than this oil - especially if you are changing your oil every 3500-4000 miles. A couple of interesting notes from that article: the ester additive is different than the ester based Redline and Amsoil oil and the Hydrogen free DLC coating is a Nissan patent, is expensive, and not available in any other oil. I recommend reading the entire article.
i forgot about bobistheoilguy, that's a great site. i went and read that article and i've got to say back at the OP again. i think the nissan ester oil is probably your best bet unless you track every weekend

Old Chuck 01-30-2010 02:31 PM
Interesting post under oil nerds info
 
further up in engine and drivetrain section. It leaves open a number of questions but compares most of the oils discussed here on a regular basis from oil analysis. Some surprising results. Again, we need more study and more vehicles and how they were driven but good data...

VCuomo 02-01-2010 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 369183)
It really isn't that bad. It takes a few minutes to get all of the bolts out if you want to remove the entire tray, but you don't have to.

You can access the oil filter and drain plug by removing the four rearmost bolts. You'll see that the rear quarter of the tray is designed to fold down for access.

You obviously have less space to work with, but if you want to do it quickly you can do it this way. Be advised that the tray will not stay folded down on it's own, so you need some cord to run through the bolt holes and tie it down somewhere.

You could probably just remove the whole thing in the time it takes you to tie it down. :tup:
FWIW, I changed my oil with no problems whatsoever by just removing the 4 bolts - didn't see any need to tie down the fold-down tray. YMMV...

370zproject 02-01-2010 05:01 PM
got royal purple in it now should i switch to mobile one?

Trips 02-01-2010 05:05 PM
I'm just waiting for the Red-Line to arrive from Summit Racing, and I'll change over this weekend, weather Permitting...

Rhinetom 02-03-2010 02:00 PM
Nissan Ester Oil
 
I use what they recommend. Don't want to ever pay for an engine. But, that's just me.

GZ3 02-04-2010 11:26 AM
(other) nothing but Motul 300v changes for my Z


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