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shadow85 04-27-2019 09:49 AM

Help diagnose this sound
 
Can anyone check out this whining noise my Z is making after an oil change:

https://youtu.be/_HJuZhRJWFw

This whining noise can also occur moments AFTER the engine is shut off.

I think it is something to do with the PCV system, because when I remove the dipstick or Oil cap the noise will instantly go away but will return if I place the oil cap or dipstick back.

BettyZ 04-27-2019 04:37 PM

All I can say is I played that in my car w my phone audio plugged in and it scared the **** outta me.

That and it's too loud to be PCV. If it didnt happen before the oil change and now it does, something related to that oil change is causing the issue.

You checked the oil levels and the filter to be sure everything's all good?

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SouthArk370Z 04-27-2019 05:45 PM

Sounds a bit like a slipping belt.

shadow85 04-27-2019 06:12 PM

The reason why I believe it is the PCV is because my car makes the exact noise as this guy here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9wNM-3f9W4

especially when he turns the engine off @ around 20 seconds, jump to that and you can hear it wheezing out. My car does exactly the same thing.

I do not have access to a new PCV valve to test because apparently there are none in stock in the whole of Australia, I would have to order them from Japan if I wanted to try new ones.

Spooler 04-27-2019 06:51 PM

Sounds like a belt tensioner or idler pulley. Pull the belt and check all of them. All of mine had to be replaced when they removed my motor for an upgrade. Also, check the power steering pump and A/C compressor.

SouthArk370Z 04-27-2019 08:26 PM

Pull one of the hoses off of the PCV and see if the noise stops/changes.

Edit: We used to clean PCVs out with carburetor cleaner. Don't know if that still works.

shadow85 04-27-2019 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3847320)
Pull one of the hoses off of the PCV and see if the noise stops/changes.

Edit: We used to clean PCVs out with carburetor cleaner. Don't know if that still works.


Yes I pulled one of the hoses off the PCV valve when the engine was running and it drastically changed the sound of the engine, more to an unhealthy choking sort of sound so I immediately placed the hose back on!

Rusty 04-27-2019 10:28 PM

When I first heard that on the video. I thought I was listening to a sci-fi movie. :eek:

Since you are removing the oil cap, dip stick, and vacuum hoses, the sound changes or goes away. Your motor is building pressure inside of it. Something is plugged.

shadow85 04-27-2019 11:27 PM

Ok to everyone who is scared from the first video I posted.

I decided to upload a recording of the noise it makes AFTER I turn the motor off. I repeat, this is about 30 seconds to 60 seconds after I have turned the motor off, not while it is running!

https://youtu.be/yqsFpzGnpZI

Now imagine that noise at your windowsill in your bedroom, late at night when you are asleep! I bet you, you all would s**t yourself!
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

Rusty 04-27-2019 11:43 PM

Your car is haunted. :eek: It needs an exorcism. It's possessed. Watch it that it doesn't turn into Christine. :eek:

shadow85 04-28-2019 03:46 AM

Well, I can't promise anything.

jchammond 04-28-2019 05:37 AM

Remove belt & check all pulleys & ensure bearings are ok :ugh2:

bunk 04-28-2019 07:24 AM

So when its running youre being abducted by aliens, then after shutting down, the witch of west eden is chasing you. I agree with Rusty, you need to get your car exorcised!

I wouldve said it was a pulley or tensioner, but now Id have no clue as Ive never heard the last part after shutting down before.

BettyZ 04-28-2019 08:11 AM

So, this is my diagnosis:

Kill it with fire. Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

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shadow85 04-28-2019 08:43 AM

Hahaha guys, that's not helping. I spent alot of money on it.

I need to atleast sell it and let it consume somebody else. Lol
No no, its my baby, I will get to the bottom of it.

:)

BettyZ 04-28-2019 06:38 PM

Let us know what you discover!

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CRiZO 04-28-2019 10:24 PM

Have you had high oil consumption or a rough idle?

I think step one would be the PCV valve. They can be noisy and whistle but I've never heard one that loud though lol. But who knows. If the sound went away when you removed it, I'd spend the 15 bucks or whatever to replace it to see. It's normal for the idle to drop some when you remove/plug it.

Or you know, burn it with fire so it doesn't kill us all.

shadow85 05-01-2019 12:36 AM

Does anybody know if the hose in the pic below is part of the PCV system. The one marked 2.?

I know, 1. is the PCV valve hose, but not sure on the 2.

https://i.postimg.cc/4dvLVt1b/Studio...501_145238.jpg

And a closer inspection shows that it looks kinked/collapsed a bit:

https://i.postimg.cc/SRyZrsT0/Studio...501-145313.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/QNbYMQCj/Studio...501-145340.jpg

BettyZ 05-01-2019 07:35 AM

Two is a breather tube, supposed to let fresh(er) air from your intakes into the valve covers. That pinch might be what's causing your car to call out for Satan, but I wouldnt think so...

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shadow85 05-18-2019 12:59 PM

Got the noise fixed.

Turned out to be a check valve issue. The seal inside the spring was worn/expanded over time or something along those lines, and caused a ton of vacuum which made that noise.

They removed the seal, and now the noise is gone and everything is all good again.

SouthArk370Z 05-18-2019 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 3853500)
Got the noise fixed.

Turned out to be a check valve issue. The seal inside the spring was worn/expanded over time or something along those lines, and caused a ton of vacuum which made that noise.

They removed the seal, and now the noise is gone and everything is all good again.

:tup:

shadow85 05-18-2019 05:45 PM

They said, if the noise returns to bring the car back to them so they can figure out a way to delete the check valves and or do a catch can setup.

BettyZ 05-18-2019 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 3853527)
They said, if the noise returns to bring the car back to them so they can figure out a way to delete the check valves and or do a catch can setup.

Dual catch can setup + PCV delete is easy peasy.

https://www.z1motorsports.com/engine...r-p-13199.html

Sporacingrts Compact Baffled 3-Port Oil Catch Can 2 Inlets 1 Outlet Silver on Amazon.

Order some appropriate tubing and AN fittings, and you're good to go. If you're running dual catch cans (and why not?) be sure to order two bungs to seal the spare inlet on each can.

shadow85 05-18-2019 10:08 PM

ill have to try and find the space in the TT bay for dual cans.

BettyZ 05-18-2019 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 3853567)
ill have to try and find the space in the TT bay for dual cans.

They're about the diameter of a pop can and an inch or two shorter.

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