Sasha Anis and Jim Wolfe 4.2 N/A VQ 500+whp
 

This motor is pretty insane. I'd love to know how to get my hands on a similar ITB kit. Probably a tuning nightmare but the sound alone is almost worth it, well the 8200 redline screaming doesn't hurt either. Sasha has been killing it for years just thought I'd share. He's working on a hybrid system for his track z too it's kinda crazy.

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You're late to the party. I already posted that video. :rofl2:

I would put the quietest exhaust on it I could, that car has to be total blast to drive. 500hp NA is insane. I wanna bomb mountain roads in it.

The throttle respond would insane. :driving:

Lol you are correct sir, my YouTube feed last few days has been off.

Where? I want to brag that Sasha also was the guy who tuned my old z...

:tup:

2 places. The N/A HP thread and BGTV thread.

I think it deserve a separate thread, anybody know if it will be available for sale later on and how much it would costs. :yum:

If I had to guess, the long block was 30K plus. That is not including the custom intake he has built. If you wanted to duplicate it I would put a price of around 100K plus. It is not for sale.

Everything is for sale if the price is right.

Not Everything to some people.

$30k for the long block? $100k for the full engine? That government prices and $1000 an hour labor rate?

$30k for that setup, at most. V6 shaftless ITBs are only around $4-5k. Custom crank, dry sump setup, rods and pistons: maybe around $9-10k. Heads are not super special, just custom/rare cams and $3-4k in head work. Custom headers maybe around $2500, if even. Maybe $2k in fasteners, bearings, and fluids. Hell, even if he went special coatings/treatment on high-wear parts it just adds around $3k max. Presuming he didn't lift a finger to do any of the work to save money I would be pressed to say that engine cost $30k even. The dyno time and engine management would be a ticket item, good thing he does his own tuning.

That's the engine, so long block plus auxiliary maybe $30k, not the entire car setup.

Why don't you go have all that work done and then tell us how much it costs. I know how much I have in my engine build. It's not cheap.

If someone offered you a $100,000 for you to give them a blow job. Would you turn it down? :rofl2:

Rusty = Gutter Mind. Zoren is wearing on you. I would turn it down in a heartbeat. Stupid question.

That motor is on the plus 50 grand side. When is the last time you had a custom engine put together? Create motors are a different story. Ever price a Nelson motor. Some of them are way over 50 grand.

No it's not. Every thing has a price. You even said so your self.

100k :rofl2: you can do a lot with that much money, but cannot hide the dream of having it in a track prepared 370z.

I never said it was cheap, i said it was most likely around $30k. I don't find that cheap, but I don't agree it was $50k either. I've build a handful of engines that have done excellent at what they were built for. I am very familiar with crap work and exceptional machine work. I'm also well up to date in the current market cost when it comes to the internals of our engine, and those prices I quoted can easily be verified with a web search or a phone call or two.

And Nelson motors are nice, but you are paying a premium for a name as well, you have to keep that in mind.

I 100% agree it's an expensive engine, but I think there are some inflated price estimates being thrown around. JWT can slap whatever number they want on that engine, but realistically the cost of parts and labor not inflated are not as much as some are estimating I feel. It's still just a VQ37 block slightly over-bored with a custom rotating assembly and some HR heads with great work done to them and race cams in it. They might have sleeved it, but I don't see why they would, and they might have installed some type of block guard to close deck it but still, it's not a custom molded block.

The first video of the engine.

A Bryant racing crank is 5 to 6K..... You are thinking Brian Crower, Chinese made stuff that takes a ton of machine work to get it right.

There are more people then Bryant racing that makes cranks that are just as good and half that price; machined from billet, per your specs (marine crankshaft inc come straight to mind). You are still thinking deepest pocket. I've seen the first video, and I still stand by my estimate/guesstimate. Just throwing out overpriced well established company names doesn't mean they are the end-all-be-all, the best, or the most economical route.

In the end, whatever the price, it means it will be nearly what new car is worth :bowrofl:


I know there was a lot of debate about this, but Sasha work opens the door for more speculations, we have now people who went cams route and generated around 370whp, what if we got cams + stroker + vq35hr heads + maybe bigger intake and exhaust components, I think this will be around 400whp or more. I am planning of staying NA, and my car is a long term track car, so this option is very viable to me if something happened to my engine, which I don't wish ;) it will not hurt to get some extra hp/tq if I was going to order a built engine from the other side of the world, and would not hurt to get the same engine from Sasha if the price is right for both of us :rofl2:

I called Bryant about a year ago and the 370z crank is $3k.

That said that build is no less than $50k!

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That's a stock crank. A stroked one is more.

SOHO did a NA 4.0 stroker that was 4xx at the wheel. That is with stock cams. It's on here somewhere. Let me look.

Here it is. Stock air boxes, It was 378hp.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...hr-record.html

You can purchase the ITB kit already - go to www.onpoindyno.com and ask Sasha - I have an example

You will not get much change from $US40-45K for an engine of this specification.

HINT: Ask me how I know

Throw in the R&D on top of it.

Great, so I think it will be 20-25k for 400+whp engine.

All for the love of vq! I get that for the purists or meeting racing class specs and I am bent that way for now, but if I were to do an NA build...LS swap and call it a day!

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I know, but I am purest, I think this route is better than going vk56 which is another thing I would like to see in a 370z. :rofl2:

An LS3 is easier to find locally and easier to build with a lot of knowledgable people.

VK50VE bottom end with VK45DE heads is my dream swap.