Mishimoto Oil cooler
 

has anyone installed this on a 2016+ NISMO model?

Mishimoto support tells me that it cannot due to the Yamaha Damper. They do not have customer feedback on this either.

Looking at the Mishi unit, looking like a Setrab 19 row, I am assuming it should fit like the Z1 or FI units where they call for simply flipping the Damper end to end to provide clearance.

Unless the bracket is also a hinderence, I'd like to know.

I like the Silver color offering and the fittings on Mishi unit, otherwise will go
Z1 if no info on Nismo install.

Please no politics . I have done my research. I have to ask Z1 if they have a silver cooler option. Only require 19 row, so FI is not an option unless they make 19 row.

Yes, I can make my own, but I would have already done that and this question woul be moot. :tup::rofl2:

Im a 2017 Nismo Tech btw.

TIA

Friends don't let friends buy Mishimoto. They have a history of bad quality. :shakes head:

I have a Nismo and have the Z1 34 row kit. Yes, you have to flip the dampener over. The fat part of the dampener is in the way of the cooler. I also added 1/4" thick spacers behind the brackets for added clearance.

That's what I understand in the install. 34 row will be overkill for me. I also read that people with 19 row still have a hard time getting HOT in northern climates like myself. I don't want to tape over cooler or install some sort of blocker. Not tracking.

I'd like to hear from Mishimoto users. There seems to be good reviews for their catch cans here. If they are simply rebranding standard parts, how could they have bad quality. Not sure what they are actually making in-house.

I said no politics, and look at me. :rofl2:

I say stay stock. The factory oil stabilizer will work just fine for you since you don't track the car and are way up North. Spend your money on something else like exhaust and intakes.

I would never put any Mishimoto parts on my Z never. Mishimoto parts are made in China good luck. My second Z had a Mishimoto 19 row oil cooler already installed by the previous owner and after inspecting I found one of the AN fittings were leaking and the sandwich plate was leaking. I ended up replacing it with a 24 row Stillen oil cooler and it never leaked and I never looked back. Be selective when you choice an oil cooler a specially.

I bought a Mishimoto magnetic oil drain plug shortly after I got my Z years ago. With barely any force the head snapped off on the second oil change leaving the shank and magnet threaded in my oil pan. Fortunately I was able to work the broken shank out of the drain hole using my fingertip. I haven't tried Mishimoto anything since.

We do get hot up here, and I will end up in traffic quite often. I also visit the mountainous/canyon areas in summer where temps will reach 86F+.

In both situations, I hit 240F oil temp and climbing, last summer. I did manage to stop for a while, so I didn't get to see higher oil temps. I think it wanted to go higher.

I noticed any spirited driving in 77+ will increase oil temp over 212. Which is fine, but if it warms up, I will get over 220. I'd like to see between 195-210.

Only problem is, how to keep it warm in spring time and early summer. Unfortunately the thermostatic valves are always partially open and blocking in cooler months would be a necessity.

Too bad there isn't a modulating blocker door for that purpose. ;)

That could have been the fault of installer. ;)

I do appreciate your concern and insight. :tup:

There is a thread somewhere on the forum about one member losing a motor because of the Mishimoto sandwich plate o-ring. Just a heads up.

The going consensus is either the Z1 or the FI coolers for trouble free operation. As for blocking the cooler rows off. Some use a piece of thin aluminum plate use velcro to hold it in plate.

If this is truly the case you will need a 34 row. The 19 or 24 won't cut it. Even with a 34 row I can get to 240 real easy. Keeping your oil temp at 195 to 210 is not very realistic. You will get hotter. Keeping it below 250 is more realistic especially if you are in the upper RPM levels a lot.

It really depends you choose a engine oil cooler that best matches your climate and what temperatures you normally see in the seasons. Running too cold with the VQ37HR engine isn’t good for the life of your engine and could be detrimental. In the cold fall/winter months I found a custom made block off plate works well. Also from what I gathered running anything over 245 degrees would be a corcern and needs to be addressed. It’s your Z you need to determine what engine oil cooler best works for you. Z1,FI,and Stillen would be good choices in terms of a engine oil cooler brands. In my experience I have only seen negative reviews with Mishimoto products you get what you pay for 9/10 of the time. I have seen the Mishimoto engine oil coolers leak and if you search there is a member here how lost their engine due to their Mishimoto engine oil cooler leaking and had to replace their engine on their own dime. The Mishimoto radiators are notorious for leaking worse than any other radiator brand I have ever seen. The Mishimoto racing thermostats over cool our VQ37HR engines and are possibly detrimental to our QV37HR engine. The Mishimoto magnetic engine oil pan drain plugs are notorious for snapping and breaking with little torque applied and sometimes Z owners have to replace their engine oil pans because it can’t be removed. The Mishimoto silicone radiator hoses are notorious for cracking and leaking coolant. Definitely do your research or better yet ask a forum member here before you purchase any parts for your Z.

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I have sticky aluminum tape for that. But Velcro would be easier. Is cooler face accessible from the front facia of a Nismo?

Ya, I will go with Z1.

Like I said, I wont be hitting those numbers on a regular basis. I think any addition or upgrade is better than stock.

I do recall a member from Toronto installing a 19 ROW and saying it was fine. They get colder and Hotter than us here in B.C.

OK, it won't be Mishimoto. :tiphat:

I will talk to Z1 and see what their experience base says. I can add theirs to these awesome words of advice and choose from there.



Thanks again

You can get to the cooler through the grille opening.

19,25,34 shouldn’t be a bunch of difference with the thermostatic sandwich plate,,,works like the thermostat on your coolant :tup:
Being an A/T...a 19row wouldn’t hurt there either :ugh:
I’d have to dig up temps,,,but high oil temp,ait’s or coolant temps will pull timing & reduces power.
Unsure at what temp the A/T goes in limp mode.

When I bought my Z it had the shitmoto cooler, it was the first thing I removed because it was leaking from the AN fittings. The cooler it'self seems good, however the AN fittings and hoses are *****.

I assume Mishimoto just sources the cheapest garbage and resells. All of their oil catch cans are just alibaba stuff they have badged. The only "engineering" that goes into them is in the packaging.

I have a 2017 and you can mount the oil coolers in the wheel well very easy ... I use the stock cooler and a 25 row ... works great

Also ...using the stock cooler with the air to air cooler will help warm the oil in the winter ..on colder days 20-30 degrees it will maintain oil temp around 195-200 degrees

Not sure why everyone hates on the Mishimoto Oil Cooler. I've had it on my car for easily a year and a half, i got the thermostatic sandwich plate option and also the racing thermostat, haven't had an issue come about since the install. Very reliable products in my opinion.

LOL @ Mishimoto. It's like that drug dealer kid in highschool who comes to class high and tries to answer every math question. We all know he's trying to put in the effort, but we also know his lack of effort (in this case, product quality).

I'm one of the people who did this. I spent less than $10 on sheet aluminum and outdoor Velcro. Once the car is raised it can go off and on in under 3 minutes from underneath

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I must be lucky too as I've had a Mishimoto oil cooler on for several years and had no issues including track days.

I have had a Mishimoto 19 row oil cooler and thermostatted plate on my 2014 Nismo 370Z since it was new. Over 100k miles on the car and oil cooler. I swapped the original sandwich plate to the rectangular alternative plate by Mishimoto. The new plate had a better location for an oil pressure sensor. I never had a leak, fitment issue, or problem with an AN line not sealing.

Yes, I live in Texas. My oil temps in the winter season stay around 185 degrees like clockwork. In the Summer season they get to 210-215 degrees on the really hot (100 +) days. On track days, of which I have had many, they get to 235 degrees during the session and then cool right back down to 220 by the time I exit the track.

One other thing, I had the car tuned with an Osiris tune. The significance of this is that the rad. fans come on 50% at 200 eg. 75% at 205 deg. and 100% at 210 deg. The car does not cook the oil or run hot.

Here is the Grain of salt bit:
Maybe my car is the exception to the "No Mishimoto" mindset I have read. For me, I have no regrets. I would buy this oil cooler setup again in a heartbeat. Just be sure the installer is competent enough to do this install, if other than yourself.

There are a lot of individual "I have a single mishimoto part and it works" type of reviews... I'm sure their products work fine for the majority of users. Please consider the idea that if a part has a 20% failure rate, then most likely you are going to be fine...but that rate is absolutely awful. Not saying that's what it is with them, just that you are, individually, a sample size of one.

The real issue, in my opinion, is that they source cheap parts with no care of the quality or consistency of them, then mark them up, repackage, pour in some marketing cash, and tell you how great of a job they did engineering them. Look at their catch can lineup, it's like a straight-from-china lineup on aliexpress. Like literally they are all just cheap chinese options. Some of them are pretty good (I happen to have a pair in my Z...non-branded versions), some are complete trash...But mishimoto badges them all and sells them with no conscience.

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Seriously... run away from Mishimoto. Don’t walk, RUN!

Don’t make me play the “I told ya so” card! :rofl2:

I have the mishimoto cooler and it works how it was designed and intended to work...no problems and or complaints here. Be a leader not a follower.