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Wilson2608 01-09-2019 10:16 AM

Car is not running right. Rough idle and misfiring under acceleration.
 
I have updated this post because I still have not been able to get the car right. I have tried numerous things and nothing has changed. If you have any suggestions please feel free.. Thank you.


What I have tested/eliminated:
Cats
Fuel pump
Injectors
Coil packs
Spark plugs are good
Air filters replaced
MAF and TB cleaned
PCV valves cleaned.
Checked for vacuum leaks
Replaced valve cover and spark plug gaskets( though for sure that would fix it as there was oil alll over spark plugs )

As i stated before I checked the spark plugs, they look fine and they have about 55k miles on them.

I’m making this post in hopes anyone has any other tips ideas. I’m kinda at my last ditch effort here. Gunna get my boost leak tester from 300zx to be 100% sure there’s no air leaks.



Hello everyone, I have a 09 370z (mods in signature) and am having a issue with idle and WOT acceleration. No check engine light and no pending codes besides random misfire. Once car is warmed up it sounds like the engine is misfiring at idle, i can feel it shake the car very slightly every time it happens and it’s pretty consistent. Under WOT the car will be pulling smooth up until about 4-5k then it starts to break apart. If i keep on the gas it will break apart then pull smoothly again and it continues to this back and forth. I’ve check my air filters, cleaned the MAF, and MAP sensor. Fuel pump was replaced 35k miles ago and spark plugs changed out about 45k miles ago. Was going to check fuel filter but all it is is a black mesh piece attached to the fuel pump assembly. If anyone has any idea please post them.

SouthArk370Z 01-09-2019 03:29 PM

Possibly dirty TBs. Could also be a sensor going out.

Since cleaning TBs isn't all that easy (not all that hard, either, but I'm lazy), first I would try is resetting the ECM - pull a battery terminal and step on brake pedal for 2-3 seconds or there is a video-game-worthy procedure (search is your friend).

Wilson2608 01-10-2019 02:25 PM

Okay thanks Im going to clean the throttle bodies today hopefully that will help. Still haven’t got any check engine light or pending codes.

fryzia23 01-10-2019 04:46 PM

Sounds like you have vacuum leak. Wouldn’t be surprised if you had a loose clamp on one of the throttle bodies

Quicksilvers 01-11-2019 01:34 AM

I had this almost same problem with one of my last Z’s. The culprit could be faulty ignition coils and/or a possible vacuum leak. I would test your ignition coils and check for any vacuum leaks. Also replacing spark plugs in your Z by time or current mileage is a better rule of thumb never wait 100K miles to change your spark plugs as Nissan would recommend. If you have to change your coils you mite as well replace your spark plugs since you will be in there anyway. Best of luck with your diagnosis.

Wilson2608 01-15-2019 12:15 PM

Update: cleaned the throttle bodies they were disgusting I was hoping that it would be the problem but no luck it’s still doing the same thing. Going to test the ignition coils tomorrow. I searched high and low for a vacuum leaks but was unable to find anything.

If anyone else has some ideas let me know please. I doubt it’s the fuel pump but I’m going to check that tomorrow too.

scope22 01-15-2019 03:39 PM

Make sure your ground at battery is solid and clean where it connects to battery and body of the car, when my ground wire became loose it would seem like it was misfring and AFR was very rich, then next day it would be fine then it would start over once warmed up.

Inkdboy31 01-28-2019 10:32 AM

Just a heads up, mine had something similar and it was a damaged injector and it ended up frying the computer.

Wilson2608 02-05-2019 08:33 PM

Okay I’ve checked a lot of things since last posting. Not fuel pump as i checked it with a gauge, it could be a injector I’ll double check that next. Negative cable is good, spark plugs were not bad either.

I’m really starting to think it’s my cats. They are Z1 Motorsport cats and I’ve had them for about 40k miles. The problem is so inconsistent it’s hard to diagnose. Today i hopped in and fully accelerated and i had like maybe half the power and the engine sounded really muffled almost like i had an exhaust leak but it was quiet( if that makes sense). Stopped the car went to class then came out an hour later, full throttled the car with no problems at all.

I’ll try to take a video next time it happens and upload it. Thanks for everyone’s input so far.

Quicksilvers 02-06-2019 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson2608 (Post 3822154)
Okay I’ve checked a lot of things since last posting. Not fuel pump as i checked it with a gauge, it could be a injector I’ll double check that next. Negative cable is good, spark plugs were not bad either.

I’m really starting to think it’s my cats. They are Z1 Motorsport cats and I’ve had them for about 40k miles. The problem is so inconsistent it’s hard to diagnose. Today i hopped in and fully accelerated and i had like maybe half the power and the engine sounded really muffled almost like i had an exhaust leak but it was quiet( if that makes sense). Stopped the car went to class then came out an hour later, full throttled the car with no problems at all.

I’ll try to take a video next time it happens and upload it. Thanks for everyone’s input so far.

Clogged up high flow catalytic converters is another possibility to your symptoms your are experiencing with your Z. How knows what vendor Z1 is using to supply their high flow catalytic converters and how good of quality they are?

Wilson2608 02-06-2019 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilvers (Post 3822244)
Clogged up high flow catalytic converters is another possibility to your symptoms your are experiencing with your Z. How knows what vendor Z1 is using to supply their high flow catalytic converters and how good of quality they are?

I’m going to lift the car up this weekend and check to see if that’s the problem. I guess I’ll have someone rev the car at about 2200 rpm and test the airflow coming out of the exhaust pipe (right off of the cats).

Anyone have any other ideas as to how to test a clogged cat?

Rusty 02-06-2019 01:42 PM

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Wilson2608 02-06-2019 03:22 PM

Thanks everyone I’ll check into that this weekend. I’m leaning toward it being the cats simply because of how bad my car is running and it will not throw a check engine light. If i have half the power and my car is running like crap it should throw a code. My cat codes have been permanently disabled through uprev.

Wilson2608 02-10-2019 10:27 PM

Sadly it is not the cats i checked them today. I’ll keep looking for the problem it’ll turn up eventually lol. Thanks for the reply’s

Wilson2608 08-19-2020 12:38 PM

Update
 
So here we are, the 370z still is running like ****. I took a break and focused on the 300zx but now I need to get back to it.

What I have tested:
Fuel pump
Injectors
Coil packs
Spark plugs are good
Air filters replaced
MAF and TB cleaned
PCV valves cleaned.
Checked for vacuum leaks
Replaced valve cover and spark plug gaskets( though for sure that would fix it as there was oil alll over spark plugs )

As i stated before I checked the spark plugs, they look fine and they have about 55k miles on them.

I’m making this post in hopes anyone has any other tips ideas. I’m kinda at my last ditch effort here. Gunna get my boost leak tester from 300zx to be 100% sure there’s no air leaks.

SG4247 08-19-2020 02:03 PM

Bought time for a leak down or compression test...

Wilson2608 08-19-2020 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3955144)
Bought time for a leak down or compression test...

Yeah that’s what I’m concerned about ... it’s just weird because sometimes the car pulls strong all the way to redline and others it jerks and misfires the whole way. Motor has 120k miles on it. I contemplated doing a compression test while the plugs were out but I didn’t... guess I’m about to do that next. Fingers crossed

Wilson2608 09-18-2020 08:21 AM

Well just did a compression test and it was good. Lowest cylinder was 230 and highest was 240ish. It’s going to Nissan maybe they can figure it out. Car is running worse after I replaced spark plugs. At this point I’ve done everything In the book. I have heard about a dual mass flywheel causing misfiring issues. No idea how but I did see that somewhere. I’m at 120k and have never touched the clutch..

Blkmrkt 09-19-2020 09:50 PM

Tried checking the battery and alternator? Maybe voltage fluctuations are causing issues with sensors/computers?

AyoMykey 09-19-2020 10:52 PM

Sometimes in these cars around your age the fuel pump is able to produce adequate fuel pressure for idle, but not able to produce enough volume for driving conditions. Checking fuel pressure while accelerating in gear to full throttle will show a fuel gauge that drops from 55psi down to 40 or below. It can also be monitored using the rear 02 sensors if you have a scan tool

Wilson2608 09-24-2020 04:12 PM

Took it to Nissan and they pretty much chalked it up as the fact I have modified the vehicle. Complete waste of time ..

Anyways, new code is engine signal 1. Ecm fault or abs module. Gunna look into that a bit deeper. If that doesn’t work I’m going to replace all of the coil packs. If that doesn’t work I’m driving it into the nearest lake and calling it a day. I’ll keep y’all updated

Wilson2608 09-24-2020 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blkmrkt (Post 3960907)
Tried checking the battery and alternator? Maybe voltage fluctuations are causing issues with sensors/computers?

I replaced battery to be sure. That was not it sadly. Volt meter is reading good but I’ll have the alternator tested as well. Thanks for the advice

sportsman2003 09-24-2020 04:55 PM

Not saying that this is your issue but....I had a twin turbo 3000GT that would do the same thing as you are describing. It turned out to be bad a MAF sensor.
The car would run great then start bucking then run great again it was so intermittent it drove me crazy. I was super excited when it was repaired though.

Good luck with it. I am sure you will get it sorted.

Wilson2608 09-24-2020 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsman2003 (Post 3961887)
Not saying that this is your issue but....I had a twin turbo 3000GT that would do the same thing as you are describing. It turned out to be bad a MAF sensor.
The car would run great then start bucking then run great again it was so intermittent it drove me crazy. I was super excited when it was repaired though.

Good luck with it. I am sure you will get it sorted.

Thank you, I’ll check that out. I’ve cleaned them a couple times but I have not replaced it yet. May give it a shot if the coil pack doesn’t work.

Wilson2608 09-24-2020 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyoMykey (Post 3960917)
Sometimes in these cars around your age the fuel pump is able to produce adequate fuel pressure for idle, but not able to produce enough volume for driving conditions. Checking fuel pressure while accelerating in gear to full throttle will show a fuel gauge that drops from 55psi down to 40 or below. It can also be monitored using the rear 02 sensors if you have a scan tool

I do have a scan tool. I’ll check that as well. Thanks !

ToyKiller 10-05-2020 10:22 PM

Hey OP.. I’m chasing the same demon on my ‘07.

Any luck ironing this out?

I have a donor car (death kart) that still has cats on it because I’m lazy.. going to swap the drivers side cats tomorrow......

My ‘07 motor is stock other than CAI and Stillen Catback so the motor/ECU should think it’s stock.

Intermittent rough idle and after driving for a while a P0430 code, but the freeze frame picks it up at highway cruise speed so I’m thinking misfire.. coil or injector.

When idling ... Odd thing is when I watch the bank 2 AFR (sensor 1) it hovers around 0.8V until it starts misfiring/rough idle and the reading goes up above 1.1V then it corrects and goes back to normal string 0.8V. That would suggest that the engine is running rich when the idle gets choppy, so bad coil is the likely culprit since the plugs are new .

Frustration .....


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Bryans_3 01-16-2022 04:57 PM

Did you ever find out what’s wrong with your car because it looks like I’m having the same issue.


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