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dudesky 09-04-2018 07:08 PM

2018 370Z CSC Question
 
Hello all,

Just wanted to see if anyone knows if the 2018 MY 370Z with manual transmission still suffers from CSC failure.
As far as I know, Nissan advertises 2018 and up 370Zs now have the new Exedy High Performance Clutch.
Wonder if this remedies the CSC failure.

Thank you all in advance.

Chuck33079 09-04-2018 08:14 PM

Just a different clutch wouldn’t solve the hydraulics issue. My money says they still used the same plastic POS CSC.


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jwick 09-04-2018 09:53 PM

2018 370Z CSC Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3783346)
Just a different clutch wouldn’t solve the hydraulics issue. My money says they still used the same plastic POS CSC.


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:iagree:

It’s the crappy one they’ve used since the 350. Funny they update the clutch when it wasn’t the weak point.

V8Nissan 09-05-2018 04:56 AM

I did a bunch of research on this as I was looking to buy a 2018 manual trans but didn't want issues. The new clutch supposedly requires less pedal effort but that's all I could find. Perhaps it will be easier on the CSC for that reason. I went with the 7AT and I love it, I drive it in paddle mode exclusively.

nis350 09-05-2018 10:20 PM

it is a fun car with either transmission.... it is just a matter of personal preference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by V8Nissan (Post 3783398)
I did a bunch of research on this as I was looking to buy a 2018 manual trans but didn't want issues. The new clutch supposedly requires less pedal effort but that's all I could find. Perhaps it will be easier on the CSC for that reason. I went with the 7AT and I love it, I drive it in paddle mode exclusively.


Quicksilvers 09-06-2018 02:23 AM

The benefit to the Exedy clutch is they will hold more whp and wtq than the stock OEM Nissan clutch set up. The CSC is still of plastic material and it is inevitable the CSC will fail it is not a matter of if the CSC will fail it is a matter of when will the CSC fail?? There are people here how have replaced there CSC once or even four times just depends on how you use your Z? I recommend installing the Z Speed Performance CMAK as soon as possible before it’s too late.

axmea? 09-06-2018 04:14 AM

Nissan updated the '18 + Z's with the latest technology. Nothing to worry about. Including your CSC, MSC, ECM, etc. Really. And that's the truth.

Optimiser 09-06-2018 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3783560)
Nissan updated the '18 + Z's with the latest technology. Nothing to worry about. Including your CSC, MSC, ECM, etc. Really. And that's the truth.

Mmmmm na :stirthepot:

Chuck33079 09-06-2018 07:11 AM

I'm still not convinced that the fact that the new clutch is made by Exedy really means that there's any benefit. Exedy and other companies make loads of parts for OEMs, and they build them to spec. This could very well be the exact same spec part, just with a new supplier.

jwick 09-06-2018 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilvers (Post 3783559)
The benefit to the Exedy clutch is they will hold more whp and wtq than the stock OEM Nissan clutch set up. The CSC is still of plastic material and it is inevitable the CSC will fail it is not a matter of if the CSC will fail it is a matter of when will the CSC fail?? There are people here how have replaced there CSC once or even four times just depends on how you use your Z? I recommend installing the Z Speed Performance CMAK as soon as possible before it’s too late.


There’s still no benefit. If you are dropping the tranny to replace/eliminate the CSC then a smart person is going to replace the clutch so they never have to go back in there.

JARblue 09-06-2018 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3783617)
If you are dropping the tranny to replace/eliminate the CSC then a smart person is going to replace the clutch so they never have to go back in there.

Depends on your clutch needs. If you know how to drive a MT properly and don't need to put a lot of stress on the clutch (i.e. drag strip launches), then the OEM clutch is plenty of clutch. I replaced the CSC at 50K miles and didn't bother with the clutch. Over 100K miles now and the OEM clutch is still in good shape. In fact, the next time I drop the transmission will be to replace the Z1 CSCEK with ZSpeed's CMAK - I will go ahead and replace the clutch at the same time for convenience.

This is a good example of why the change to the Exedy clutch means nothing. The clutch plate was never the issue.

jwick 09-06-2018 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3783623)
Depends on your clutch needs. If you know how to drive a MT properly and don't need to put a lot of stress on the clutch (i.e. drag strip launches), then the OEM clutch is plenty of clutch. I replaced the CSC at 50K miles and didn't bother with the clutch. Over 100K miles now and the OEM clutch is still in good shape. In fact, the next time I drop the transmission will be to replace the Z1 CSCEK with ZSpeed's CMAK - I will go ahead and replace the clutch at the same time for convenience.

This is a good example of why the change to the Exedy clutch means nothing. The clutch plate was never the issue.


:iagree:

If you know how to drive a manual properly then you should never have to replace a factory clutch, unless you’ve added power. I’ve driven manual transmissions my whole life and I’ve never burnt out a clutch.

That being said I’m probably going to burn out the clutch in the G but that’s cuz I didn’t buy enough clutch for the torque I ended up running.

JARblue 09-06-2018 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3783627)
If you know how to drive a manual properly then you should never have to replace a factory clutch, unless you’ve added power. I’ve driven manual transmissions my whole life and I’ve never burnt out a clutch.

The first MT I owned (learned mostly on farm vehicles) was a 1995 Explorer Sport 5 speed. It was used with 75K miles, and I absolutely wrecked the clutch with improper use of the 3rd pedal. Even at that, the clutch had 150K miles on it by the time the synchros were so worn I couldn't get it into gear.

jwick 09-06-2018 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3783632)
The first MT I owned (learned mostly on farm vehicles) was a 1995 Explorer Sport 5 speed. It was used with 75K miles, and I absolutely wrecked the clutch with improper use of the 3rd pedal. Even at that, the clutch had 150K miles on it by the time the synchros were so worn I couldn't get it into gear.


**** my old ‘91 S-10 pickup I could shift without the clutch.

JARblue 09-06-2018 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3783681)
**** my old ‘91 S-10 pickup I could shift without the clutch.

After I reached about 120K, I could shift in/out of any gear without the pedal as long as I was under about 2500 RPM (redline 5K). At about 150K I couldn't get it into 1st or 2nd reliably.


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