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Zatanna Z 06-28-2017 10:59 PM

Any 2011+ owners have problems with Oil Consumption?
 
Any of you guys having problem with OC? There was a service bulletin on the 2009-2010 on OC. I'm either going to get my block replaced or I might trade in for a newer year. So please tell me if any of you are having this same issue!

Z_ealot 06-28-2017 11:45 PM

don't know if it helps, but my engine was replaced prior to me owning the car back in 2011 according to Carfax records. doesn't have any oil consumption issues.

B&W_Evader 06-29-2017 08:31 AM

2011, first shipment for the SF area to arrive after the tsunami. I go through about a quart every 4000 mile oil change. Put in 5, take out 4. It has not changed since new. Over 70k on her now.

Jhill 06-29-2017 03:39 PM

2013 haven't lost even a 1/4qt with 10k changes and two track days. So happy coming from a vw that used oil like crazy.

Zatanna Z 06-29-2017 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3669399)
2011, first shipment for the SF area to arrive after the tsunami. I go through about a quart every 4000 mile oil change. Put in 5, take out 4. It has not changed since new. Over 70k on her now.

1qt every 4k miles isn't bad. now one qt every 1k miles that's bad

Zatanna Z 06-29-2017 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhill (Post 3669541)
2013 haven't lost even a 1/4qt with 10k changes and two track days. So happy coming from a vw that used oil like crazy.

you change your oil every 10,000 miles?

Spooler 06-29-2017 07:04 PM

I have had 2, 2012 and 2013 Nismo's. Neither have used oil with a 4000 mile oil change interval.

Jhill 06-29-2017 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zatanna Z (Post 3669557)
you change your oil every 10,000 miles?

Yup, amsoil full synthetic signature series. I'll be sending in a sample to make sure it's frequent enough but the two changes I've done the oil looks as clear as when it went in. 10k really isn't bad especially with today's all roller assemblies and high grade oils, hell Honda is running 7500 on dinosaur oil.

Ok actually just ordered my analysis kit, I saved a qt of old oil after last change so I'll see how it looks to verify its good.

Dreadnaught 06-29-2017 10:18 PM

OP, it's normal for the oil to go down a little bit between oil changes. For example, when your oil is hot it's letting off vapor which then goes through your intake manifold, and into your combustion chamber to be burned.

Some manufacturers if not all have baffling in the valve cover(s) to catch the oil vapor so it drops back down into the sump and not go through the PCV system with the blow by gases to be burned.

For those that do not know, the PCV system replaced road draft tubes which just expelled blow by gases and oil vapor to the atmosphere.

Zatanna Z 06-29-2017 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught (Post 3669635)
OP, it's normal for the oil to go down a little bit between oil changes. For example, when your oil is hot it's letting off vapor which then goes through your intake manifold, and into your combustion chamber to be burned.

Some manufacturers if not all have baffling in the valve cover(s) to catch the oil vapor so it drops back down into the sump and not go through the PCV system with the blow by gases to be burned.

For those that do not know, the PCV system replaced road draft tubes which just expelled blow by gases and oil vapor to the atmosphere.

I was 2 qts low after 2500 miles.... I think that is too excessive. But I got my oil changed the other day and we'll give her another chance and see if she burns again. So I wonder if an oil cooler would help my consumption? Or I wonder if these 2009-2010 370z's just have a flaw in the motor that Nissan never told us about?

Zatanna Z 06-29-2017 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3669586)
I have had 2, 2012 and 2013 Nismo's. Neither have used oil with a 4000 mile oil change interval.

Lucky you

Zatanna Z 06-29-2017 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhill (Post 3669593)
Yup, amsoil full synthetic signature series. I'll be sending in a sample to make sure it's frequent enough but the two changes I've done the oil looks as clear as when it went in. 10k really isn't bad especially with today's all roller assemblies and high grade oils, hell Honda is running 7500 on dinosaur oil.

Ok actually just ordered my analysis kit, I saved a qt of old oil after last change so I'll see how it looks to verify its good.

Dang that's crazy. Never heard of that before

jchammond 06-30-2017 02:07 AM

Don't overfill the crankcase; I put mine up to the circle on the dipstick (about 5.3qts.)
Mine doesn't see a racetrack often-but is driven hard at times.
Taller gears & heavier wheels/tires can add to consumption.
I perform 2500mi. Oil changes with 5/30 extended performance Mobil syn & a Napa Platinum oil filter (made by Wix & designed for synthetic oils)
As I approach 85k miles, I may have to add 4oz. Or so to keep it on the full mark/and this usually doesn't happen till about 2k into the new oil.
When it had less miles (20,30,40k) would have to do this 2-3 times between changes.
Max 12oz. Or so at a 2500 mi. Interval; but it sees 7500rpm's every time I take it out.
And has been to speeds more than I can post.
But seems to have settled down from new on mild consumption.

Jhill 06-30-2017 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zatanna Z (Post 3669646)
Dang that's crazy. Never heard of that before

Really? Every single euro is 10k mi now if not more as far as I'm aware but they all also require full synthetic and run large filters (and not some cheap *** blend synth). According to amsoil (not that I would push it this far) is the oil can actually do 25k or 1 year however the vq37 can only fit their 15k filter. So 10k is still well below the rated mi for the oil. Really when you think about it the filters job it to filter particles which on today's low drag, low scuff designs (all roller, no flat tapet etc) so not a lot of debris and it is the additives in oil that really break down so as long as the additives hold up (which are tons better today than ever before but you pay a premium for them) then the risk of premature wear is pretty low.

I'm curious to see my results, guess will find out.

radix023 06-30-2017 07:30 AM

I haven't gotten to oil change #2 yet, but this thread got me paranoid enough to check:
Car is @15k miles (I got it at 11k)
I set the oil maintenance for 5k miles at my first oil change (pennzoil 5w-30)
I'm at 4300 miles on the counter.
Oil was filled to top circle on dipstick. Yesterday the dipstick showed the same reading, so no oil consumption that I can tell.
DD, no tracking yet, moderate driving.

Dreadnaught 06-30-2017 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by radix023 (Post 3669714)
I haven't gotten to oil change #2 yet, but this thread got me paranoid enough to check:
Car is @15k miles (I got it at 11k)
I set the oil maintenance for 5k miles at my first oil change (pennzoil 5w-30)
I'm at 4300 miles on the counter.
Oil was filled to top circle on dipstick. Yesterday the dipstick showed the same reading, so no oil consumption that I can tell.
DD, no tracking yet, moderate driving.


Don't be paranoid. Some oil loss between changes is normal. See my earlier post. I check my oil every two weeks. I change my oil every 3,000 miles or 3 months and my oil level drops a little over an 1/8th of a quart. Check the oil following the directions per the owners manual.

Dreadnaught 06-30-2017 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhill (Post 3669672)
Really? Every single euro is 10k mi now if not more as far as I'm aware but they all also require full synthetic and run large filters (and not some cheap *** blend synth). According to amsoil (not that I would push it this far) is the oil can actually do 25k or 1 year however the vq37 can only fit their 15k filter. So 10k is still well below the rated mi for the oil. Really when you think about it the filters job it to filter particles which on today's low drag, low scuff designs (all roller, no flat tapet etc) so not a lot of debris and it is the additives in oil that really break down so as long as the additives hold up (which are tons better today than ever before but you pay a premium for them) then the risk of premature wear is pretty low.

I'm curious to see my results, guess will find out.

When I left Mercedes, the 2015 Sprinters just got switched to a 20K OCI.

abm89 07-01-2017 09:18 PM

I get some consumption. The latest stat for me is about 1/2-3/4 a quart of oil with two 100F+ degree track days and some daily driving on a motor with 104K on it. That said, I would recommend installing your own dual catch-can system if you are overly concerned about it.

http://i.imgur.com/NiJSuRxl.jpg

Zatanna Z 07-02-2017 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by abm89 (Post 3670344)
I get some consumption. The latest stat for me is about 1/2-3/4 a quart of oil with two 100F+ degree track days and some daily driving on a motor with 104K on it. That said, I would recommend installing your own dual catch-can system if you are overly concerned about it.

http://i.imgur.com/NiJSuRxl.jpg

well my dealer is actually monitoring it and my engine is under warranty so I don't want to do anything to void my warranty. Basically right now I'm deciding between trading in for a 2015+ nismo or replace the engine block under warranty.

Zatanna Z 07-02-2017 12:47 AM

decisions...decisions

NISMO IX 07-02-2017 01:45 AM

5000 mile intervals since new. 19,600 on odometer. Nissan ester oil and k&n or nismo filter. Always refill with 5 1/8 Quarts (as recommended in manual). Add between 1/2 and 1 full quart between changes as level lowers a bit. I do know that ester oil WILL burn at high revs and temperatures, but burns clean.

Question? Are you doing your own oil changes or are you relying on the stealership to do so? I know three different stealerships that would put 6 quarts in my Juke when it only requires 4 3/4 quarts with change. Just curious if this is all your own determinations or what a dealership may be telling you to get you to buy another car...

Fountainhead 07-02-2017 03:01 AM

59K on odometer, using PYB change it every 3500 to 4000 miles and no oil usage at all.
Using Nissan oil filter. I do not track and do not beat the **** out of it, no race car driving :), I know, the OP was asking 2011 and up but since my year model is supposed to use a quart every 1000 miles I thought it interesting that is does not.

Zatanna Z 07-02-2017 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NISMO IX (Post 3670378)
5000 mile intervals since new. 19,600 on odometer. Nissan ester oil and k&n or nismo filter. Always refill with 5 1/8 Quarts (as recommended in manual). Add between 1/2 and 1 full quart between changes as level lowers a bit. I do know that ester oil WILL burn at high revs and temperatures, but burns clean.

Question? Are you doing your own oil changes or are you relying on the stealership to do so? I know three different stealerships that would put 6 quarts in my Juke when it only requires 4 3/4 quarts with change. Just curious if this is all your own determinations or what a dealership may be telling you to get you to buy another car...

Is ester oil apart of full synthetic oil? I'm using full synthetic oil so I don't know if maybe that has something to do with it, because I was doing high revs and a lot of racing around. My oil must be burning clean because there isn't any black smoke coming out of my exhaust? But yes the stealership is changing my oil due to the fact of following the rules to keep the engine warranty. Otherwise I'd change the oil myself.

Zatanna Z 07-02-2017 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fountainhead (Post 3670382)
59K on odometer, using PYB change it every 3500 to 4000 miles and no oil usage at all.
Using Nissan oil filter. I do not track and do not beat the **** out of it, no race car driving :), I know, the OP was asking 2011 and up but since my year model is supposed to use a quart every 1000 miles I thought it interesting that is does not.

Lucky you lol

Dreadnaught 07-02-2017 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zatanna Z (Post 3670385)
Is ester oil apart of full synthetic oil? I'm using full synthetic oil so I don't know if maybe that has something to do with it, because I was doing high revs and a lot of racing around. My oil must be burning clean because there isn't any black smoke coming out of my exhaust? But yes the stealership is changing my oil due to the fact of following the rules to keep the engine warranty. Otherwise I'd change the oil myself.


You should just change your oil yourself. They can't deny your warranty just because you do your own oil changes.

NISMO IX 07-02-2017 02:54 PM

Nissan Ester oil is supposedly mineral oil, vegetable oil, and animal fats that is synthesized in process. Synthetic oil like mobile one is synthesized dinosaur oil, like regular oil, only synthesized in process.

Not trying to start an oil debate, everyone has their preferences, I prefer Nissan Ester oil.

Zatanna Z 07-02-2017 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught (Post 3670494)
You should just change your oil yourself. They can't deny your warranty just because you do your own oil changes.

I'd prefer to change it myself that way I know it's 100% done right


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