anyone use Lucas octane booster or any octane booster?
 

Just wondering if anyone here is using lucas octane booster or any octane booster for that matter??

I use a bunch of gas additives but all octane boosters are B-b-b-b-bullshít!!!

There's no way 1 pint of anything will increase 20 gallons of gas's octane. (People say Torco is the only one that works, maybe, I doubt it though)

Just by premium. If that is not enough VP is what I head for.

lucas sponsored me many years ago with my camaro, and i used to swear by their product... Ive always had great results with their octane booster..... placebo effect or not, my ls1 always ran GREAT.. Was thinking about adding it to my 370z for the reason of .... "CAUSE I CAN" will it hurt anything with the fuel system in these cars?

As per DEpointfive0, "no way 1 pint of anything will increase 20 gallons of gas's octane." Read the fine print on the bottle. Octane boosters just don't do very much.

Naptha and/or diesel/kerosene seem to be the main ingredients (per MSDSs).

From the 104+ web site:
"Can I use a lower grade of fuel than is recommended by the manufacturer and add 104+® Octane Boost products to make it a higher grade?
No, we recommend that you follow the fuel grade suggestion in your vehicle’s owner’s manual."

Octane boosters have no real effect on fuel octane unless you use numerous bottles. In this case, the effect would still be minimal. Keep in mind that "octane points" translate to tenths of "(R+M)/2" octane.
There are also certain amounts used to calculate this, such as "adds 7 octane points to 5 gallons of fuel." This will make 5 gallons of 89 octane into 89.7 octane, assuming a perfect, optimistic blend. I feel this is still over what its effective octane would be.

You'd have a better experience adding toluene alone to your fuel.

Torco Accelerator

old school used toluene, U can google it.

If you want higher octane, buy race fuel!

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:iagree: Don't waste your time with regular off the shelf octane boosters.


I have found this product to be the next best thing....

RACE GAS | Racing Fuel Concentrate

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j5...gas_large.jpeg

This. Manufacturers are counting on people not knowing what "points" are.

interesting... :stirthepot:

:ughdance:

Xylene is the best aromatic for octane improvement.

I was a sceptic at first when I heard about the Race Gas concentrate product until I started doing tuning with Seb from Specialty Z and got his opinion about it. He told me he has heard good things bout the product. So to test it during my tuning sessions I did a tuning session with 5 gallons of VP MS109 (100 Octane Race Gas) and did a second tuning session with 5 gallons of 91 pump gas mixed with the Race-Gas product using the measurement on the site to get 103 with 91 pump gas and the results were identical. No signs of detonation with advance timing, fuel concentrate mix has the same scent/odor of pure race gas.

Financially the Race-Gas concentrate is the best bang for ur buck @ $40 a can locally u can turn almost 6 gallons of 91 pump gas into 103 octane race gas grade fuel. 5 gallons of VP Racing MS109 costs $120 here. Both are just as good and have given me great results at the track.

I will definitely have to look into Race Gas if Seb recommends it...I typically run 101 race gas at the track *except* for Auto Club Speedway, where it's practically impossible to get anything aside from 91. Last time I was there, I used several bottles of octane booster, but was still suffering frequent detonation.

It's a push in my opinion, 101 or 100 at the pump runs less thand $10 a gallon so you aren't gaining much if any thing. The biggest advantage is if you can't get race fuel and for Ban at AC it would be worth it.

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I read somewhere U can use aviationgas(avgas) and get it at the local small airports, not sure of mixing %s

I know I'm probably wrong here but I thought aviationgas was kerosene

Bad idea...aviation gas is leaded and you will blow your engine.

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What is the ideal octane rating one would run in a non FI z when using race gas?

Hey I was just confused

If you looking run race gas all you need is 100 octane. You just need to make sure it is unleaded. Most of the time if it has lead in it, it will be 103, 112 or something of that nature at the pump. You can buy some really high dollar stuff from VP that is oxygenated as well but I don't see a need for that unless you a racing full-time. Strip your car down and make it lighter if you want it to go faster and NA lol!

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Airplanes don't run on unleaded fuel!

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An airplane using jet turbines use kerosene

We are talking apples and oranges. When the person mentioned aviation fuel at the pump, that is fuel used by prop planes. Jet fuel does have kerosene in it and that is why it stinks so bad!

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This stuff is available at my local performance parts store. $88 10 gallon drum. 104 octane

http://i.imgur.com/MvQyeee.jpg

Fixed! Not a bad price...

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you lucky son of a bitch

Brain hurts

I forgot it was leaded,,,im old skool and all the hotrods took leaded.

Avgas is about 100 octane and it wouldn't damage your engine. It will clog your cat converter eventually but that's about it.

We run it in race bikes all the time (race bikes don't have the cat converters anymore).
It's much cheaper than race fuel.

You have been fairly warned if you want run it in your car...good luck with that!

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FWIW, 100LL (most common grade) avgas has 1.2-2.1 grams of tetraethyl lead (TEL) per gallon of fuel. Leaded gasoline had up to 2.2 gr/gal. Unleaded gas can contain up to 0.001 gr/gal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avgas#Grades
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrae...ation_gasoline

^^^Nothing like data!

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I used Lucas with 94 octane.
My car ran very well with it

Z

this looks similar to the Race Gas...

and some good reviews on it...

https://www.boostane.com/

their website looks similar to Race gas...

Best octane booster is toluene. IF your state laws allow it, and if it's cheap enough.

It's not legal in CA anymore, but when gas hit 4.69 or whatever here in CA... I ain't gonna lie... I definitely took a few... Dozen... Gallons from work... Work bought toluene for like $3/gallon... I wanted to punch someone in the face...

I would blend in E85. I've been using a mixture of E85 and 93-octane to keep the octane rating higher.

I wouldn't recommend AVGAS/LL100. Aside from being leaded (emissions equipment unfriendly), it contains other additives that may not be friendly to your fuel system, to include rubber seals. The additives will also reduce performance, rendering its octane rating worthless for you.
Aside from having aviation fuel experience, I put a lot of research into AVGAS as I was looking to run it in my GTR. Naturally, decided against experimenting with it.

Jet [turbine] fuel in all variations (Jet A/B, JP-#/TS) is kerosene based. Diesel engines are able to use turbine fuel at a loss of efficiency, but a gasoline motor will suffer terribly.

Sorry to revive a dead thread but.. I was recently tuned by seb on ecutek a couple weeks ago and he said that for map 3 I need to put higher octane fuel. the only pump near me that has more than 91 is a 76 in Pasadena with 100 octane. Like POS VETT said, can I mix e85 with 91 on stock injectors to bring my octane up to about 93/95? I could mix the 100 octane gas with 91 but it is $10 a gallon...e85 is a lot cheaper lol and closer