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ARrado15 03-20-2016 09:20 PM

Black Transmission Fluid
 
So i decided to change the transmission fluid for the first time i have owned my Z, and when I let her drain, the fluid was dark black/grey and smelt pretty bad. I have no clue when the previous owner changed the fluid, and was just wondering of this was normal.

Array 03-20-2016 10:23 PM

Miles?

ARrado15 03-21-2016 02:03 AM

It has 95k right now

jchammond 03-21-2016 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ARrado15 (Post 3440129)
So i decided to change the transmission fluid for the first time i have owned my Z, and when I let her drain, the fluid was dark black/grey and smelt pretty bad. I have no clue when the previous owner changed the fluid, and was just wondering of this was normal.

If it had a grey color/possibly have some water contamination,,,not sure if the M/T's have trans. coolers that pass through the radiator?
I'd fill with proper fluid;drive a couple hundred miles & repeat....can't be too clean & probably never had been changed.

POS VETT 03-21-2016 05:26 AM

That's about normal for that many miles. Next time, replace it at half the mileage at the most. Did you replace the gear oil for the diff while you were there?

SouthArk370Z 03-21-2016 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by POS VETT (Post 3440174)
That's about normal for that many miles. Next time, replace it at half the mileage at the most. Did you replace the gear oil for the diff while you were there?

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3440168)
... I'd fill with proper fluid;drive a couple hundred miles & repeat....can't be too clean & probably never had been changed.

:iagree:

After almost 100k miles, black and smelly is pretty normal. At this point, I'd go with jchammond's suggestion and do more than one change. If you don't check your fluids regularly, POS VETT's ~50k change interval is a good target.

I'd check ALL lubes (including the diff, as POS VETT suggested) and replace if there is any doubt. As per jchammond, you can't change lubes too often (after the break-in period).


EDIT: While it is normal for trans fluid to look/smell like that after so many miles, the fluid was trashed and you've been running with less than optimal lubrication for many miles. Plus there are all the metal particles that have been floating around (see Rusty's comment below). You may want to do two change/run-a-few-miles in order to flush as much of the metal as possible. If PO didn't change xmission fluid, they probably didn't change anything else. :( I'd definitely recommend changing all fluids in the car. The FSM has inspection check lists, lube specs, &c.

Rusty 03-21-2016 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3440168)
If it had a grey color/possibly have some water contamination,,,not sure if the M/T's have trans. coolers that pass through the radiator?
I'd fill with proper fluid;drive a couple hundred miles & repeat....can't be too clean & probably never had been changed.

No tranny cooler in the radiator for a manual.

The grey color is from microscopic metallic particles. 95,000 miles. You have a bunch.

ARrado15 03-22-2016 12:36 AM

Yes I did change the Diff fluid as well .Its just so expensive for the redline mt-85. I think i payed 104 for the transmission and the diff :/

POS VETT 03-22-2016 05:57 AM

Transmission takes a little under 3 quarts and the diff 1.5 quarts, so $104 for 5 quarts of fluids is pretty steep. While the lubricant for transmission is not as easy to find (GL4), the diff needs a common gear oil easily found at almost any auto parts store. I use Mobil1 Synthetic 75W-90 gear oil that costs $10-12/quart for the diff and, for transmission, Amsoil 75W-85 manual transmission GL4 that retails at $15.75/quart; quite a bit less at vendors and resellers.


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