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astro932 03-13-2016 12:08 PM

Can we get a good clutch thread going?
 
Ok so I had my car up on the rack last week at work to bleed my brakes and I noticed that my CSC is starting to leak, so I started seaching around the forum to see what the thoughts are about clutches and CSC's but I am finding a million different threads all saying different things
Normally on past cars its easy I call up ACT order a clutch 30% stronger than stock and all is happy and good but the whole CSC thing is really screwing with everything here. Any one who has gone through this already it would be great to hear from you!! It seems like the SZ kit would be the best as far as the CSC issue is concerned but I can be sure on the quality of the clutch that comes with it. Any good input here? I have found that the HD CSC that Zspeed offers is hit or miss on quality. Also have not found anything bad about the conversion kit to elim the CSC all together... It sure is a lot of info to sift thought and would be a great thing if we could work together to get one solid thread on here for clutch/csc solutions!
The problem has been around for so long you would think the community would have a few agreed apon fixes so its easy for everyone to find!

40 to 332 03-13-2016 12:48 PM

I've followed this issue pretty closely since purchasing my Z … and in fact decided to replace the OEM CSC with the Z Speed HD CSC (along with a new CMC) at approx. 5K miles to avoid being stranded due to a failure of the stock CSC. In terms of the Z Speed HD CSC, I'm not aware that it's "hit or miss". I know of one failure when it was combined with a Spec clutch kit, and that combination simply didn't work. There may also have been failures when the CMC was not swapped out at the time the HD CSC was installed. Joe at Z Speed cautions that both the CMC and CSC need to be changed at the same time. I'm not aware of any failures of the HD CSC other than those mentioned. I've experienced no issues. That said, I bleed the clutch system regularly using Motul RBF 600 to remove any fluid that might be contaminated … usually twice per year. Trust this helps!

40 to 332 03-13-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 40 to 332 (Post 3435210)
I've followed this issue pretty closely since purchasing my Z … and in fact decided to replace the OEM CSC with the Z Speed HD CSC (along with a new CMC) at approx. 5K miles to avoid being stranded due to a failure of the stock CSC. In terms of the Z Speed HD CSC, I'm not aware that it's "hit or miss". I know of one failure when it was combined with a Spec clutch kit, and that combination simply didn't work. There may also have been failures when the CMC was not swapped out at the time the HD CSC was installed. Joe at Z Speed cautions that both the CMC and CSC need to be changed at the same time. I'm not aware of any failures of the HD CSC other than those mentioned. I've experienced no issues. That said, I bleed the clutch system regularly using Motul RBF 600 to remove any fluid that might be contaminated … usually twice per year. Trust this helps!

I also should add that I installed the RJM clutch pedal assembly that evidently eases wear on the CSC.

astro932 03-13-2016 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 40 to 332 (Post 3435214)
I also should add that I installed the RJM clutch pedal assembly that evidently eases wear on the CSC.

Ya that I have heard but I got my car used so while I have an RJM pedal now it was all to late haha, I have heard a few people complaining a bout the bleader leaking and noises, idk I dont know if the others had done things correctly or just threw it in.

Jinxx 03-13-2016 02:57 PM

Is the clutch failure on a set number of years or did it get corrected in newer models ?

astro932 03-13-2016 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinxx (Post 3435255)
Is the clutch failure on a set number of years or did it get corrected in newer models ?

every single year, and supposedly on the q60 as well so I dont think nissan will even try to fix it

Z_ealot 03-13-2016 08:37 PM

Havent had one issue with my zspeed csc, but then i had both the cmc and csc replaced at the same time and paired it up with a competition clutch stage 1 kit

Joe@ZSpeed 03-16-2016 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by astro932 (Post 3435217)
Ya that I have heard but I got my car used so while I have an RJM pedal now it was all to late haha, I have heard a few people complaining a bout the bleader leaking and noises, idk I dont know if the others had done things correctly or just threw it in.

Most issues to date have been other problems and people automatically want to blame the CSC which has yet to be the issue in any cases I have dealt with.
Shops not changing the pilot bushing is the biggest noise complaint issue, If they don't get changed chances are it's going to make noise when you get your car back or soon after. Once again, Make sure you get your old parts back, All of them, so you know it was changed. The only way to insure this is to tell them ahead of time you want ALL your old parts back.

Most other noise issues are people don't realize the new clutch and single mass flywheel they just had installed will make more trans noise than the 50+ Pound dual mass stock assy that was removed.

Bleeder screws, so far I've actually seen one and it was extremely over tightened which damaged the seat, On the other hand the screw is VERY easy to replace.

Jayhovah 03-16-2016 11:37 AM

I'm happy with my HD CSC.

astro932 03-16-2016 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe@ZSpeed (Post 3437251)
Most issues to date have been other problems and people automatically want to blame the CSC which has yet to be the issue in any cases I have dealt with.
Shops not changing the pilot bushing is the biggest noise complaint issue, If they don't get changed chances are it's going to make noise when you get your car back or soon after. Once again, Make sure you get your old parts back, All of them, so you know it was changed. The only way to insure this is to tell them ahead of time you want ALL your old parts back.

Most other noise issues are people don't realize the new clutch and single mass flywheel they just had installed will make more trans noise than the 50+ Pound dual mass stock assy that was removed.

Bleeder screws, so far I've actually seen one and it was extremely over tightened which damaged the seat, On the other hand the screw is VERY easy to replace.

see like this!! Im thinking of doing a ton of reseach and righting a definitave thread about all of this

Joe@ZSpeed 03-16-2016 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by astro932 (Post 3437552)
see like this!! Im thinking of doing a ton of reseach and righting a definitave thread about all of this

Most people just call or message me for answers..


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