Sometimes Push Start doesnt start.
 

Recently I've been noticing that maybe 1 in every 5 or 10 starts, the car stops at ACC or ON before having to push it in to turn engine. It turns and runs fine besides the fact.
I was thinking maybe I'm doing something wrong and haven't noticed? or maybe something is happening here...?

Check your battery it might be going bad.

It checks out just above 14V according to the gauge and the statistic on my OBDII reader.

Make sure you have the clutch pushed in far enough. Sometimes I find myself pushing the clutch in just enough to release the flywheel (like when I shift) but not far enough to register the switch for turning the engine over.

^This.

I've done this multiply times. Had me worried the first couple of times I did that.

Your charging system is putting out 14v. To check your battery the engine needs to be off.

Try adjusting the clutch switch out a little see if it helps, a battery wouldn't stop your car on acc. The only thing I could see causing that is that its not getting the signal to start, which would be that clutch switch.

I know this sounds dumb, but my muscle memory has me putting on my seatbelt and hitting start at the same time. Foot is on the brake and clutch is pushed all the way in, but sometimes my butt is lifted off the seat a little so I can fit the belt into the lock, and the start button just goes to ACC, and I have to hit it again before the engine starts.

I'm convinced that there's a butt sensor in the driver's seat that won't start the engine if it doesn't think there's a person in the seat.

No there isn't I've started my car without sitting in it. While adjusting the clutch switch I just used my hand to push the pedal down.

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Then maybe I'm letting out the clutch just enough during my maneuver to keep the engine from starting.

Yea, I think it has to do with the pedals. I drive a 7AT, and I come across this issue too, believe it or not, when I don't press the brake down hard enough. I like to start my car as I'm adjusting myself in my seat, and sometimes as I'm getting in, I let go of the brake ever so slightly, after I pushed start, and it'll just go straight to ACC!!!

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That is presuming of course that you have disabled the steering lock.... :icon14:



Otherwise :owned:

It might be your pedals thats not working correctly

Happened to me. Was my clutch sensor. Replaced it via rock auto.


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Ok, so this is still happening to me every once in a while and is getting on my nerves...
Where exactly is the clutch swtich? if needs replacement, is it cheap? is it simple DIY?

Thanks for any info.

Where can I locate this sensor?

On your clutch pedal, under the dash.

What rusty said


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Ima check it out tomorrow.

So after inspecting the upper section of my clutch pedal, I noticed that the pedal is making full contact with the nipple that gets pushed in... and the electric plug is correctly plugged in.
Maybe the switch is slowly going bad and eventually it wont register my start at all?

If I were to replace it, do I just pull the electric plug and nothing will brake? Or is there a clip or something I should watch out for?

You can check operation of the switch with a cheap VOM (available at most auto parts stores).

Adjustment and R&R procedures should be in the FSM (link in my sig).

The upper switch is irrelevant, you want to look at the lower switch when the pedal is pressed down.

I'm pretty sure I'm talking about the correct switch, any lower is the actual chrome pedal.

Double check that you are checking the correct switch. The upper switch should be white and lower should be brown if I'm not mistaken.

I've been having the same issue for the past year or so...tried changing key fobs, replaced the car's battery (wen't dead over the winter), but still every once-in-a-while it would not start. Even the dealer could find nothing wrong. So, last week, I crawled under the dash and readjusted the lower clutch pedal switch (14mm jam nut) and screwed it in (Clockwise) about 3/4 of a turn to allow the switch button to be depressed more. Since then, I have had ZERO issues...starts every time now.

You can't just push in the lower switch button itself and expect the vehicle to start. There is an upper switch (for the cruise control) that has to be "open" for the car to start. Two things have to happen for the car to start:

1) The lower clutch switch must be closed (pushed in with the pedal)
2) The upper clutch switch must be open (pushed out with the pedal)

Without BOTH of these switches in the right position, the car will not start...

Take a look at the attached pdf document. BTW, the "C" gap for the lower switch should be 0.1-1.0mm (0.004-0.039")

Thanks for all the details and information, Ill look more into it later when I have some time.
Ill report back to see if it is a complete fix.

OP - same issue happened to me when I first got my car, thought my RJM clutch pedal was screwing something up. Remove the clutch switch and clean the contact points with alcohol using eartips or something. Reassemble and voila, problem solved!

Sorry it took a while for me to get back at anyone with similar issues, I procrastinate a lot.
So I was able to remove the old switch by turning "clockwise" to unscrew... I learned the hard way after bending the frame a little. I had to use some pliers to bend it back in position.
Anyways I bought a new switch at the dealer for $25 plus a 14mm wrench for $10.
So far no signs of the previous symptoms.

Just bought a pedal sensor switch , thought it was going bad gonna check this out later thanks guys

If you had symptoms like mine, that sometimes the car doesn't start on first push, it most likely is your clutch switch.
I haven't had any problems since.

Yea it as the recognizing me depressing the clutch , odd part is after I read this it's been starting on the first push 🙄 Figures but I'm still gonna check it out today once it cools down

Since I adjusted mine a few weeks ago, the non-starting on occasion has happened again. I ordered one from the dealer and replaced the old one. Since the replacement, I have had ZERO issues with it starting.

I even took the old one to work to check it out electrically and it tested good. So, for the $30 I paid, it was worth replacing...

And if you're gonna replace it, turn clockwise to unscrew it.

Appreciate it bro , came in handy and this fixed my issue

I have a 16 Sport AT,,sometimes mine didnt start no matter what I did..i keep the key on a lanyard in my pocket and im thinking the key itself is blocked by my wallet, receipts or whatever is in there...no start I reach in and readjust contents of pocket and it starts.

what happens when you place the key in the keyfob slot?

I experience the same thing, push up start does not works occasionally. but I notice if key is next to you Cell Phone in our pocket, the car does not start, but as soon as I take the phone out it work fine.

could be the steering lock mechanism getting jammed. Mine was playing up time to time so I just unplugged the damn thing.

If it is this issue, check this out.. there is this box under the steering wheel, give it a tap (or bash should I say) with a small hammer or something and you will hear it click and unlocking. If this fixes it, you need to either replace the box or just remove cable that goes in when its unlocked so it wont ever lock again. obvioulsy the cons of doing this will be that your steering wheel will never lock, but I have no issues with that..