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FairladyZ40th 02-03-2016 10:59 AM

New engine or Engine restore?
 
I lurked a little and couldn't find the thread regarding this choice I apologize if this topic has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has. I would t mind being linked in the right direction of course :p. Thank you!

So here it is. My engine is a couple miles away from hitting 111,500 miles. Along with my power train, transmission, and differential. I recently did a 6 puck XTD clutch kit swap (big mistake I know) and its holding out ok though it's got some squeeking on engagement. I am going to reswap the clutch for sure. However I was wondering about my other components? Would it be Hester to look for a newer engine or just have the one I have rebuilt? What if I restore my engine and bore out some 4.0L pistons? Anyone else do this yet? Results? Recs? Anything and everything helps except for Cristisism that just makes people feel bad and doesn't get anyone anywhere so be kind on this thread haha :) thanks ahead of time!

Chuck33079 02-03-2016 11:06 AM

Why would you do anything to the motor if you don't have any problems? There are members here with twice the mileage with zero issues. Get a compression test, a leakdown test and an oil analysis. If those come back clean, don't worry about it.

BC416 02-03-2016 11:06 AM

Is there anything wrong with the motor? I'm curious as to why you would think it would need to be rebuilt. 90ST on here has like 250,000 on his Z and it's still trucking along.

TerribleONE 02-03-2016 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3403991)
Why would you do anything to the motor if you don't have any problems? There are members here with twice the mileage with zero issues. Get a compression test, a leakdown test and an oil analysis. If those come back clean, don't worry about it.

:iagree:

If it aint broke don't fix it

90 ST 02-03-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3403992)
Is there anything wrong with the motor? I'm curious as to why you would think it would need to be rebuilt. 90ST on here has like 250,000 on his Z and it's still trucking along.

Yeah, exactly!! ^^^^

Unless you are wanting to build for big power I would bolt some power on it and go. My oil analyses came back good. with about 235,000 at the time I took the sample. currently about 245,000...

90 ST 02-03-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th (Post 3403985)
I lurked a little and couldn't find the thread regarding this choice I apologize if this topic has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has. I would t mind being linked in the right direction of course :p. Thank you!

So here it is. My engine is a couple miles away from hitting 111,500 miles. Along with my power train, transmission, and differential. I recently did a 6 puck XTD clutch kit swap (big mistake I know) and its holding out ok though it's got some squeeking on engagement. I am going to reswap the clutch for sure. However I was wondering about my other components? Would it be Hester to look for a newer engine or just have the one I have rebuilt? What if I restore my engine and bore out some 4.0L pistons? Anyone else do this yet? Results? Recs? Anything and everything helps except for Cristisism that just makes people feel bad and doesn't get anyone anywhere so be kind on this thread haha :) thanks ahead of time!

Glad to see someone else driving their car, but yeah no need to pull the engine out for an overhaul yet, unless you ARE having problems, burning a lot of oil or looking to do a big power build.

charnathan 02-03-2016 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3403999)
:iagree:

If it aint broke don't fix it

:iagree:

Now as far as boring it out to a 4.0L, if you're not going forced induction, it's kind of a waste for the cost if you're not boosted. And from what I've read, even the guys running 10 to 13 PSI of boost are still on stock internals and they are getting between 600 to 700 RWHP. But I have a BSME, so I'd consider forged internals for longevity/fatigue when boosted to those numbers, but that could always be done at a later date.

In fact, i'm not sure if there are many companies still around that provide a 4.0L kit. I know Brian Crower still has a kit, but it's at 4.34L which is what I plan on doing in the long run :happydance:

FairladyZ40th 02-03-2016 12:53 PM

Awe all you guys are awesome! So then in reality it's a waste/unneeded? I was starting to worry about the miles though I've heard these cars go for a while before anything needs to be done haha. Ok, so there's no oil leaks anywhere and the engine runs good it only has a little clicking like noise which I'm assuming are the valves? Other than that I'm worried about my tranny.

Every time I shift there's a squeeking especially on take off. Sometimes, rarely, when I'm going fast and do quick shifts it sounds like something is getting hit in the back of the car I'm guessing it could be the diff. Anyone have this experience before?


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FairladyZ40th 02-03-2016 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3403991)
Why would you do anything to the motor if you don't have any problems? There are members here with twice the mileage with zero issues. Get a compression test, a leakdown test and an oil analysis. If those come back clean, don't worry about it.


Yeah you're right! I should do some basic tests to see life and quality first! Never thought of that, thank you! :D definitely look into it haha what would you say for tranny and differential though?


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FairladyZ40th 02-03-2016 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charnathan (Post 3404012)
:iagree:



Now as far as boring it out to a 4.0L, if you're not going forced induction, it's kind of a waste for the cost if you're not boosted. And from what I've read, even the guys running 10 to 13 PSI of boost are still on stock internals and they are getting between 600 to 700 RWHP. But I have a BSME, so I'd consider forged internals for longevity/fatigue when boosted to those numbers, but that could always be done at a later date.



In fact, i'm not sure if there are many companies still around that provide a 4.0L kit. I know Brian Crower still has a kit, but it's at 4.34L which is what I plan on doing in the long run :happydance:


Thanks for the 411 man this definitely helps make a better educated decision :)


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FairladyZ40th 02-03-2016 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 3404007)
Yeah, exactly!! ^^^^



Unless you are wanting to build for big power I would bolt some power on it and go. My oil analyses came back good. with about 235,000 at the time I took the sample. currently about 245,000...


Holy damn that's a lot and I thought I was killing my engine haha do you know how long these engines last on average? I read maybe about 320k?


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Z_ealot 02-03-2016 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th (Post 3404062)
Awe all you guys are awesome! So then in reality it's a waste/unneeded? I was starting to worry about the miles though I've heard these cars go for a while before anything needs to be done haha. Ok, so there's no oil leaks anywhere and the engine runs good it only has a little clicking like noise which I'm assuming are the valves? Other than that I'm worried about my tranny.

Every time I shift there's a squeeking especially on take off. Sometimes, rarely, when I'm going fast and do quick shifts it sounds like something is getting hit in the back of the car I'm guessing it could be the diff. Anyone have this experience before?


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i would say to have the transmission mounts checked out, especially if you do a lot of hard launches and have them check the diff. for any leaks around the seals and bushings and such...other then that, the only thing on the motor that you could possibly need is just routine maintenance stuff like changing out the serpentine belt and spark plugs, etc.

Rusty 02-03-2016 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3403999)
:iagree:

If it aint broke don't fix it

:iagree:

90 ST 02-04-2016 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th (Post 3404070)
Holy damn that's a lot and I thought I was killing my engine haha do you know how long these engines last on average? I read maybe about 320k?


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Working on finding out...lol I think I have the highest mileage 370 though in the world at this point...so 245k at least? It still runs strong and has no problems with the engine.

ReflectingG0d 02-04-2016 02:58 PM

Rebuild, keep everything together on a 40th.

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