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Katiehp0 09-17-2015 12:14 PM

limp mode? how to get out of it
 
so i think i am in limp mode it woundnt rev after the car starts only when at start up, so does using a code reader clear it or does resetting the ecu helps? thanks (no limp mode here guys) it was just some throttle peddle sensor.

also, is the check engine light the engine service soon light sensor on the z? or is it different?

edit: so i didnt do the ecu reset because it didnt need it, but i did do the code reader and found a few codes for it some of it cleared but only 1 keeps coming back after clearing it.. i believe its p2135 something about the throttle peddle position sensor, im trying to figure that out.

does anyone know where the airbag sensor wires are? i try looking for it but dont see it anywhere.

DEpointfive0 09-17-2015 12:39 PM

Get hard

SouthArk370Z 09-17-2015 12:49 PM

Depends on why it's in limp mode. You should be able to clear it using an OBD scanner. If that doesn't work, reset the ECM.

Katiehp0 09-17-2015 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3311264)
Depends on why it's in limp mode. You should be able to clear it using an OBD scanner. If that doesn't work, reset the ECM.

i have no clue why it it was in limp mode in the first place but from research it woundnt rev right, its like its stuck at that specific rpm.. so it think its a limp mode problem, but either way ill do both!

also the engine service soon light is on and im not sure if thats the check engine light or not. can you tell me?

SouthArk370Z 09-17-2015 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Katiehp0 (Post 3311271)
... also the engine service soon light is on and im not sure if thats the check engine light or not. can you tell me?

Yes ... but I'd rather teach you to fish than feed you. If you can't find what you need in the Owner's Manual, check the FSM.

JARblue 09-17-2015 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 3311253)
Get hard

Best response ever! :roflpuke2:

Katiehp0 09-17-2015 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3311289)
Yes ... but I'd rather teach you to fish than feed you. If you can't find what you need in the Owner's Manual, check the FSM.

I'll do that later, so the lights means the same thing right?

SouthArk370Z 09-17-2015 01:18 PM

The OM and FSM will tell you what the different idiot lights mean.

The FSM will tell you what can put the car into limp mode and how to clear it.

Katiehp0 09-17-2015 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3311369)
The OM and FSM will tell you what the different idiot lights mean.

The FSM will tell you what can put the car into limp mode and how to clear it.

i found the sensor lights but i couldnt find limp mode in fsm

FPenvy 09-17-2015 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Katiehp0 (Post 3311271)
i have no clue why it it was in limp mode in the first place but from research it woundnt rev right, its like its stuck at that specific rpm.. so it think its a limp mode problem, but either way ill do both!

also the engine service soon light is on and im not sure if thats the check engine light or not. can you tell me?

is it stuck around 3k rpm or so? and ate you AT or MT?

Katiehp0 09-17-2015 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3311577)
is it stuck around 3k rpm or so? and ate you AT or MT?

i wish it was around 3k too bad it woundnt accelerate up to 1500, like i said when i first start the car it would go up to 8-9k after a few seconds of revving it gets down to 1k and when i accelerate it gets stuck at 1500.. i have a automatic

FPenvy 09-17-2015 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Katiehp0 (Post 3311581)
i wish it was around 3k too bad it woundnt accelerate up to 1500, like i said when i first start the car it would go up to 8-9k after a few seconds of revving it gets down to 1k and when i accelerate it gets stuck at 1500.. i have a automatic

shut the car off, let it sit for 10-20 min, restart. that got me out of limp mode when the tranny felt the need to put the ECU into limp mode one day. I was able to shift gears in the AT but stuck under 3k rpm.

try that.

Katiehp0 09-17-2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3311584)
shut the car off, let it sit for 10-20 min, restart. that got me out of limp mode when the tranny felt the need to put the ECU into limp mode one day. I was able to shift gears in the AT but stuck under 3k rpm.

try that.

i let the car sit for the whole 24 hour and its still the same thing, so now its just sitting taking up space!

FPenvy 09-17-2015 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Katiehp0 (Post 3311589)
i let the car sit for the whole 24 hour and its still the same thing, so now its just sitting taking up space!

hmmm. yup go back to initial comments of hitting it with a scanner and seeing if a code pops. there may be something bigger than just limp mode.

maybe do a reset but unhooking the battery for a bit then reconnect and start up.

Katiehp0 09-17-2015 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3311590)
hmmm. yup go back to initial comments of hitting it with a scanner and seeing if a code pops. there may be something bigger than just limp mode.

maybe do a reset but unhooking the battery for a bit then reconnect and start up.

yes will definitely do that alittle bit later today and about the battery part i took that out for a few hours and same problem existed.

SouthArk370Z 09-17-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3311590)
... hitting it with a scanner and seeing if a code pops. there may be something bigger than just limp mode. ...

:iagree:

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Originally Posted by Katiehp0 (Post 3311597)
yes will definitely do that alittle bit later today and about the battery part i took that out for a few hours and same problem existed.

If you had the battery out for that long then you have either a "permanent" DTC (survives a power-off but can be cleared with a scanner) or you have a mechanical/sensor problem that the ECM doesn't like much but not bad enough to shut down. Edit: or it could be both.

For DIY diagnosing/repairing/modding, the FSM is the place to start. It can be intimidating if you are new to working on cars and Nissan sometimes has some weird nomenclature but it is what a Nissan tech will use (along with CONSULT software - if you have to ask how much, you can't afford it) if you take it to a dealer.

Memphis370Z 09-17-2015 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Katiehp0 (Post 3311581)
i wish it was around 3k too bad it woundnt accelerate up to 1500, like i said when i first start the car it would go up to 8-9k after a few seconds of revving it gets down to 1k and when i accelerate it gets stuck at 1500.. i have a automatic

8,000 to 9,000 RPM? :eek:

SouthArk370Z 09-17-2015 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Memphis370Z (Post 3311681)
8,000 to 9,000 RPM? :eek:

I've been assuming that was the gauge's startup self-test. If he's actually revving that high, it would explain a lot.

Katiehp0 09-17-2015 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Memphis370Z (Post 3311681)
8,000 to 9,000 RPM? :eek:

my bad haha 7-8k

Katiehp0 09-17-2015 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3311692)
I've been assuming that was the gauge's startup self-test. If he's actually revving that high, it would explain a lot.

the only reason why i rev to the maximum is because mine cant go anymore than 1500k after that

Chuck33079 09-17-2015 07:08 PM

Was the car wrecked? Your other posts make it seem like it was in an accident. Was there a lot of damage?

SouthArk370Z 09-17-2015 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Katiehp0 (Post 3311727)
the only reason why i rev to the maximum is because mine cant go anymore than 1500k after that

Why would you rev a cold engine to 7-8 kRPM?

Chuck33079 09-17-2015 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3311754)
Why would you rev a cold engine to 7-8 kRPM?


This. Let the car warm up.

Katiehp0 09-17-2015 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3311746)
Was the car wrecked? Your other posts make it seem like it was in an accident. Was there a lot of damage?

yes, yes it is, i never mention that because i didnt think it was a big deal.
no its not bad at all, its pretty decent, but so far i think i know whats causing it i updated the post at the top to let you all know. it was the throttle peddle position, i just need to know how to fix it then that should be good.

Katiehp0 09-17-2015 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3311754)
Why would you rev a cold engine to 7-8 kRPM?

not for fun thats for sure, it was a problem with the car so thats why i rev it, is it bad to rev a car if its cold?

Katiehp0 09-17-2015 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3311762)
This. Let the car warm up.

thanks, so its better to let the car warm up alittle to rev it?

SouthArk370Z 09-17-2015 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Katiehp0 (Post 3311236)
... i believe its p2135 something about the throttle peddle position sensor ...

Could also be the throttle position sensor(s) (or the actuator(s)) on the throttle body(s). Search this site for "throttle relearn".

Katiehp0 09-17-2015 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3311778)
Could also be the throttle position sensor(s) (or the actuator(s)) on the throttle body(s). Search this site for "throttle relearn".

i think its the position sensor but ill check both

Memphis370Z 09-17-2015 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3311754)
Why would you rev a cold engine to 7-8 kRPM?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3311762)
This. Let the car warm up.

This times 100.

SouthArk370Z 09-17-2015 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Katiehp0 (Post 3311772)
not for fun thats for sure, it was a problem with the car so thats why i rev it,

The logic behind your procedure escapes me. Why would you want to spin a malfunctioning engine (or any other device) to its normal maximum? The car believes it doesn't need to spin very fast - until you figure out what the problem is, pay attention to the car.

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Originally Posted by Katiehp0 (Post 3311772)
is it bad to rev a car if its cold?

Yes. Not likely to do immediate damage to an engine in good shape but it takes a few minutes off its lifespan. Bumping the limiter, even when warmed up, is not something to get in the habit of doing unless you can afford to fix things when they break.

Katiehp0 09-17-2015 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3311785)
The logic behind your procedure escapes me. Why would you want to spin a malfunctioning engine (or any other device) to its normal maximum? The car believes it doesn't need to spin very fast - until you figure out what the problem is, pay attention to the car.


Yes. Not likely to do immediate damage to an engine in good shape but it takes a few minutes off its lifespan. Bumping the limiter, even when warmed up, is not something to get in the habit of doing unless you can afford to fix things when they break.

Alright will do, I'll keep everyone update about the car

Katiehp0 09-21-2015 02:19 PM

everything working fine now, it was the throttle body, i had to replace it.


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