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CJBinder 07-05-2015 07:42 PM

AAM Competition R Line Oil Cooler - Anyone have???
 
I am curious if anyone has this currently installed or has any feedback available for it. Looks like it cools better than the air based oil coolers. Plus I have searched and found others stating that even the 34 row oil coolers can't keep up after 4-5 laps on road course.

Autocross/tracking/spirited driving.

I tried searching the forum and didn't find much as well as searching the web but couldn't find much on feedback or reviews.

Thanks for feedback

Chuy 07-05-2015 08:27 PM

Isn't that some what who Nissan has meow?

Aviator44 07-07-2015 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CJBinder (Post 3247951)
I am curious if anyone has this currently installed or has any feedback available for it. Looks like it cools better than the air based oil coolers. Plus I have searched and found others stating that even the 34 row oil coolers can't keep up after 4-5 laps on road course.

Autocross/tracking/spirited driving.

I tried searching the forum and didn't find much as well as searching the web but couldn't find much on feedback or reviews.

Thanks for feedback

I believe they just released it within the past month or so. Being that new there's not really any feedback on it yet. I've been thinking about ordering one. I do know they have a similar design that's been out for the GTR.

kmsb3001 07-21-2015 08:14 AM

I have it on my 2014 370z twin turbo. At 109 F climates wither the oil temp 208 F . on the free highway withe the same wither condition at 70 mph the oil temp 224 F.

2011 Nismo#91 07-21-2015 10:24 AM

Well, water is a much better conductor of heat the oil is (oil is actually used in other applications to store heat). So it should be a much better system in the aspect of heat transfer. But the price is that it's a complicated system with additional pumps and lines, and a more complicated system will have more places to fail. In the end Oil to Air systems have been effective enough for the large majority of users here. Only a few people running very high performance engines in hot climates on the track would get use out of this as apposed to the standard oil to air.

JJ's370z 11-09-2016 12:22 PM

Any TT builds using this system apart from kmsb3001 above, i couldn't really make out what he meant?

Seems strange no one is using it - seeing it solves a huge problem of not blocking your FMIC if i understand that's how it works




Now these guys say it comes with a setrab cooler but there is none in any of their or AAM's pics of a setrab cooler - and where does that go if it doesnt block off the FMIC - im confused

http://www.tarmacsportz.co.uk/GB/AAM...-OCRLine_.aspx

KN21283 11-09-2016 12:27 PM

I have this system, although it does what it's design for my biggest issue with it is the oil pressure drop at idle or low rpm.

Edit: this system uses a laminova oil to water heat exchanger. There's no setrab cooler.

synolimit 11-10-2016 03:25 AM

So it's an upgraded OEM type? For $900? I'd just get a bigger cooler than a 34 row. I have a 48 row machine press type and I too need more cooling but I also have a flat bottom and I don't think my air is escaping from the bay. Venting is key I believe.

JJ's370z 11-10-2016 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KN21283 (Post 3576231)
I have this system, although it does what it's design for my biggest issue with it is the oil pressure drop at idle or low rpm.

Edit: this system uses a laminova oil to water heat exchanger. There's no setrab cooler.

So you have this one

AAM Competition - Nissan GT-R, 370Z Turbo Performance Specialists

Which is supposed to work in tandem with the factory GTR oil cooler.

Do you have any pictures of your setup? trying to get an idea of how it all looks/fits

thanks

KN21283 11-10-2016 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ's370z (Post 3576492)
So you have this one

AAM Competition - Nissan GT-R, 370Z Turbo Performance Specialists

Which is supposed to work in tandem with the factory GTR oil cooler.

Do you have any pictures of your setup? trying to get an idea of how it all looks/fits

thanks

I have this one.

AAM Competition - Nissan GT-R, 370Z Turbo Performance Specialists

Just took a pic but I don't know if it'll be any help cuz it's tucked away pretty well

KN21283 11-10-2016 11:42 AM

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The cooler core is installed at the bottom radiator hose.

JARblue 11-10-2016 11:49 AM

I thought one of the benefits of an oil-to-water cooler was reduced warm-up time because the vehicle's coolant system is tapped into for use as the water portion of the cooler. But doesn't this counteract the cooling benefits once the car is driven hard and the coolant heats up?

Is there something I'm missing here? :confused:

KN21283 11-10-2016 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3576534)
I thought one of the benefits of an oil-to-water cooler was reduced warm-up time because the vehicle's coolant system is tapped into for use as the water portion of the cooler. But doesn't this counteract the cooling benefits once the car is driven hard and the coolant heats up?

Is there something I'm missing here? :confused:

Yes, the warm up time is reduce and oil is always at operating temp. Aam comp includes a lower temp thermostat for that reason.

Chuck33079 11-10-2016 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3576534)
But doesn't this counteract the cooling benefits once the car is driven hard and the coolant heats up?

Right, the main knock on an air to water setup is that the oil can never really be cooler than the water temps once the car is warmed up. So you're looking at ~200ish degree oil as the low.

JARblue 11-10-2016 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KN21283 (Post 3576535)
Yes, the warm up time is reduce and oil is always at operating temp. Aam comp includes a lower temp thermostat for that reason.

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3576538)
Right, the main knock on an air to water setup is that the oil can never really be cooler than the water temps once the car is warmed up. So you're looking at ~200ish degree oil as the low.

So how is that a solution for someone who isn't getting enough cooling from a 34 row air-to-oil cooler on long, hot track days? Ambient air is always going to cool the oil better than hot coolant, no?

Chuck33079 11-10-2016 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3576570)
So how is that a solution for someone who isn't getting enough cooling from a 34 row air-to-oil cooler on long, hot track days? Ambient air is always going to cool the oil better than hot coolant, no?

Air to air is a better solution for an oil cooler. If a 34 row isn't enough, you can plumb in another core, or find a larger one.

JARblue 11-10-2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3576571)
Air to air is a better solution for an oil cooler. If a 34 row isn't enough, you can plumb in another core, or find a larger one.

Thank you. That's exactly what I thought. This statement from the OP is what had me confused:

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Originally Posted by CJBinder (Post 3247951)
Looks like it cools better than the air based oil coolers.


JJ's370z 11-13-2016 03:11 AM

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Agreed, I guess the appeal of the AAM cooling setup is that for ppl with FMIC its not another additional cooler blocking the airflow up front.

The GTR version uses a A2A oil cooler and laminova core maybe this would be more effective for track cars in hot climates.

Was at a my local racetrack Winton raceway couple of weekends ago - the racetrack was sticking to my shoes:eek:

This also looks like a good solution cant find much info on it i believe it s 42 row
http://www.hpi.co.jp/evolve_z/index.html?no=05

shadow85 11-23-2016 07:00 AM

Yes that looks like a good cooler, wonder if anyone here has that? I want to find the best cooler, so what should I get, any 34 row, the AAM R line or the HPI evolve?

JJ's370z 11-24-2016 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 3581144)
Yes that looks like a good cooler, wonder if anyone here has that? I want to find the best cooler, so what should I get, any 34 row, the AAM R line or the HPI evolve?


The best cooler not sure, maybe an AAM R line and a 34 row setrab or another 34 row if you have space? If you plan on going FI and have a FMIC your probably going to need a new front bar as the OEM bumper doesn't really provide good airflow onto side mounted coolers.

shadow85 01-12-2017 03:59 PM

Here is a video from AAM showing engine oil temps in vs out with the AAM R Line oil Cooler system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfwRP-ZT13o

Thoughts?

pumpgas89 06-21-2017 05:47 PM

Just stumbled upon the AAM R Line oil Cooler system. automatically went here looking for feedback and thoughts. So here's mine. with everyone's footnotes considered. the way id go by this (and would really like to opposed to air to oil cooling systems) AAM R Line oil Cooler system injunction with a 2 core aluminum radiator (mishimoto, setrab, etc) and crazy *** fans and a tune that kicks in the fans early since i live in SoCal. That said I honest like how this is packaged, mini coopers and other cars actually implement this system OEM bolt on to the engine, as seen from online research regarding engine oil cooling systems.

So if i ever go this rout, i will definitely post pics and feedback (initial and long term)

peace much love

JARblue 06-22-2017 07:47 AM

AAM is no longer deserving of support from this forum. Their customer service has been flushed down the shitter. And most of their newer products look to be going the same direction. That intake manifold debacle was something else - taking $2000 pre-orders for an intake manifold that loses power and was a year late on delivery date is just unacceptable. Having customers foot R&D costs for a product that may not be viable is not the way to conduct business.

CJBinder 06-22-2017 09:08 AM

Agree screw em


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pumpgas89 06-22-2017 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3667201)
AAM is no longer deserving of support from this forum. Their customer service has been flushed down the shitter. And most of their newer products look to be going the same direction. That intake manifold debacle was something else - taking $2000 pre-orders for an intake manifold that loses power and was a year late on delivery date is just unacceptable. Having customers foot R&D costs for a product that may not be viable is not the way to conduct business.

How sad

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shadow85 01-15-2018 06:55 PM

Anymore people with this cooler? Would like more feedback


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