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Rangerz 06-24-2015 10:35 PM

Crankshaft bolt removal after NST pulley failed
 
Hopefully someone has a suggestion here. Long story short my NST crank pulley disinigrated last Friday as I was returning from the track and I'm now having a hell of a time getting the bolt and what is left of the pulley removed.

What I have tried so far:

1. isolate drive train with 3/8 extention run through the driveline yoke with that run into some 3/4 in pipe braced on the floor then a 5 ft breaker bar and a friend - result 2 broken 3/8 extentions.

1.5 tried bumping the starter with breaker bar braced on ground- no luck

2. Using a chain wrench wrapped around the remnants of the NST pulley and braced against the sway bar and the 5 ft breaker bar- result side of the chain started to dig into the timing chain cover so stopped.

3. Removed radiator so I could get a air gun on it.
1st attempt with crappy craftsman rettle gun no luck.
2nd attempt brother borrowed from work a Ingersoll Rand ported 800 ft lbs at 400 psi gun- result I can only throw 140 psi at it with my compressor but no luck. The gun slowly turns the crank.

Also with each attempt we have had PB blaster, Heat, and cold.

Does anyone have any other ideas??? And where would someone find a flywheel lock out device?

Infiniti370z 06-25-2015 12:38 AM

Have you tried putting the car in gear, setting the parking brake and holding the brakes (second person) to hold the crankshaft?

Rangerz 06-25-2015 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infiniti370z (Post 3238808)
Have you tried putting the car in gear, setting the parking brake and holding the brakes (second person) to hold the crankshaft?

Yep sorry yoke blocked and in 5th gear, emergency break applied as well.

gomer_110 06-25-2015 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangerz (Post 3238768)
...2nd attempt brother borrowed from work a Ingersoll Rand ported 800 ft lbs at 400 psi gun- result I can only throw 140 psi at it with my compressor but no luck. The gun slowly turns the crank.

Any chance of getting a nitrogen bottle from a welding supply company to get the higher pressure you need?

Rangerz 06-25-2015 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3238927)
Any chance of getting a nitrogen bottle from a welding supply company to get the higher pressure you need?

I hadn't thought of a nitrogen bottle. I was thinking of renting one of the diesel powered job site compressors and give that a try. I also ordered some are Kroil which is supposed to be great penitrating oil.

synolimit 06-25-2015 07:28 AM

Is the motor ok?

SouthArk370Z 06-25-2015 09:34 AM

You sound like you know how to work on a car but I gotta ask: are you sure you are turning the bolt the right way? Every crank bolt I've worked on (granted, not a lot) would come loose using the block-the-wrench-and-hit-the-starter method, so it's a long shot.

FSM will have how Nissan does it.

Trips 06-25-2015 09:47 AM

Yup sounds like she stuck on their real good.

A heavy duty impact gun like the ones they use for tire shops with a matching compressor will break it loose.

I would have tried breaking it loose with either a big sized rubber mallet or a small heavy sledge hammer a poor mans impact gun.

Mandingo 06-25-2015 10:01 AM

The special tool that Nissan uses to lock the flywheel looks the be about $250. Might be an option though if you get desperate enough.

I had to use a floor jack on the end of a braker bar to get my crank bolt off. Even then it started to lift the front of the car in the air before it finally gave

Infiniti370z 06-25-2015 10:32 AM

Yep, that bad boy is on there tighter than a nuns box.

Rangerz 06-25-2015 12:04 PM

Thanks for the suggestions. Im going to borrow a torque multipler from work and give it a try tonight. 18 ft lbs tq = 200 throught the multipler. It can go to 200 ft input = 2400 lbs out. If that doesnt do it might be time for the lock out.

Engine is fine Scott...for now

Spooler 06-25-2015 12:21 PM

Add a little Air tool oil in the impact gun at the air chuck. It will give it a little more power. I use a MAC 1/2" impact gun. It's better than the Snap-on jobbers.

Rangerz 06-25-2015 11:26 PM

Got it finally. Had all the high speed gadgets and it came back to, 5 ft of breaker bar and a chain wrench wrapped in heater hose around the driveline yoke to isolate the give in the drive train.

The remainder of the pulley was stuck on good as well but, came out with a small puller. I would warn everyone again on the light weight pulleys. Not worth it and can lead to much bigger problems. Luckily mine broke at relatively low rpms near the house and the way it broke it didn't damage the timing cover and was still round enough to not have a huge unbalancing effect on the crank.

Trips 06-25-2015 11:47 PM

Glad to hear the NEWS! :tup:

Now you can get back on the road :driving:

Spooler 06-26-2015 12:01 AM

WOW, you had to work hard for that one. Did you do a dance around the yard when it finally popped loose?


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