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Elmo370z 06-11-2015 10:51 PM

Upgraded valve springs
 
Anyone know if any manufacturers make upgraded valve springs for the vvel heads? I want to upgrade for v the jun cams

Chuy 06-12-2015 09:10 PM

Brain Crower?

Elmo370z 06-12-2015 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuy (Post 3227506)
Brain Crower?

I'll have to check the website, i was talking to kyle from ipp and he said he doesn't know of any manufacturer that makes them for the VQHR motor

BGTV8 06-12-2015 09:34 PM

JWT do hi-rev springs but only for the HR head, not the VHR head .... which was one of my reasons for going with HR heads on my build.

Sticking with VHR equals lots of constraints for a race engine ....

Sticking with a VHR for a road car makes sense because it is cheaper in the long run, BUT is will mean 7500rpm rev-limit (or close to it)

Elmo370z 06-12-2015 10:06 PM

Dammit, this sucks. Only company that makes upgraded springs is GTM.

BBRSpeedWorks 10-26-2015 08:14 AM

I can get upgraded dual valve springs....

BBRSpeedWorks 10-26-2015 08:16 AM

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...psahdteteg.jpg

Elmo370z 10-26-2015 11:18 AM

Wow, im interested. I know jwt is working on a set for the stage 2 cams. Please let me.

Lt8Che 10-26-2015 12:41 PM

I'm interested in this as well. Did some looking a while back and couldn't find anything for the VHR.

BBRSpeedWorks 10-26-2015 01:37 PM

Unless I do a group buy they will be right around $650 for a full set of dual spring setup... but if I went with them I would go to a 272 or 280 cam

BBRSpeedWorks 10-26-2015 01:40 PM

Which i have also..but we are still testing...problem is we don't have a n/a car to test them on

Lt8Che 10-26-2015 02:35 PM

I have the 272 Jun Cams sitting awaiting my final build (but they'll be going on with the BC 4.0 Stroker and some upgraded turbos). Really curious what springs would be out there for my application.

Spooler 10-26-2015 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BBRSpeedWorks (Post 3335344)
Which i have also..but we are still testing...problem is we don't have a n/a car to test them on

Give me a PM, We might be able to work something out. NA car that is.

BBRSpeedWorks 10-27-2015 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3335421)
Give me a PM, We might be able to work something out. NA car that is.

Pmd... Avery is doing my head package with 272 cams.
Spooler I'm still down to work with u also so we can get mutipal people with feed back.....

andy_meng1024 10-27-2015 12:51 AM

Interested in the valve springs as well. I'll be using the Jun 288 cam.

Elmo370z 10-27-2015 07:41 AM

Ill be interested once some R&D was completes with these springs? I will also be interested in doing the 288 cam once an manifols comes out. Also i would want to do a full valvetrain upgrade.

Morfiy 10-27-2015 08:30 AM

Why do you guys need an upgraded valve springs for JUN cams? Valve springs are excluded from the set, apart from other motors Cam where they're included. It means that OEM valve springs will be capable to hold these cams.
I bought 288 JUN cams and I did asked them personaly- do I need any valve springs upgrade or other modification for these cams? For what I've got reply - No you don't

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Elmo370z 10-27-2015 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Morfiy (Post 3335840)
Why do you guys need an upgraded valve springs for JUN cams? Valve springs are excluded from the set, apart from other motors Cam where they're included. It means that OEM valve springs will be capable to hold these cams.
I bought 288 JUN cams and I did asked them personaly- do I need any valve springs upgrade or other modification for these cams? For what I've got reply - No you don't

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Im looking to eventually raise my redline to 9,000 rpms. Stock springs run out at around 8500 rpms, still at that point i don't want to be pushing my stock springs to the limit every time i track or do some spirited runs and eventually have to replace themselves, hence the term kill all the birds with one stone. If you plan to stay at a 7500 rpms redline no you don't need to replace anything, you're correct on that note, but someone on also asked about the durability of stock springs, and that all to be questioned, that came straight from the manufacturer. Some people like to push the evenlope, other are just contempt with what they got.

azza12311 10-27-2015 09:57 AM

I am keen as well to see if this works out.. I think in time there will be a few brands with upgraded valve springs. I got JUN cams as well 288

BBRSpeedWorks 10-27-2015 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Morfiy (Post 3335840)
Why do you guys need an upgraded valve springs for JUN cams? Valve springs are excluded from the set, apart from other motors Cam where they're included. It means that OEM valve springs will be capable to hold these cams.
I bought 288 JUN cams and I did asked them personaly- do I need any valve springs upgrade or other modification for these cams? For what I've got reply - No you don't

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The jun 288 must a very mild cam. the stock exhaust spring is smaller than what is in a honda. The intake side is pretty beffy but I believe that's because the vvel can up to a full 280 with 11.5 mm lift. If u ran anything above a 263 without spring ur just looking for a floating valve. I'll post pics in a min.

BBRSpeedWorks 10-27-2015 10:43 AM

Can u see the difference. http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...psa2vn4xyj.jpg[/URL] http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6zrpev1j.jpg[/URL]

Morfiy 10-27-2015 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BBRSpeedWorks (Post 3335917)
The jun 288 must a very mild cam. the stock exhaust spring is smaller than what is in a honda. The intake side is pretty beffy but I believe that's because the vvel can up to a full 280 with 11.5 mm lift. If u ran anything above a 263 without spring ur just looking for a floating valve. I'll post pics in a min.

The VVEL is dealing with only intake cams is it? So exh cams are needless of tune or changeover unless like ELMO said you are going to raise RPM

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Morfiy 10-27-2015 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3335907)
Im looking to eventually raise my redline to 9,000 rpms. Stock springs run out at around 8500 rpms, still at that point i don't want to be pushing my stock springs to the limit every time i track or do some spirited runs and eventually have to replace themselves, hence the term kill all the birds with one stone. If you plan to stay at a 7500 rpms redline no you don't need to replace anything, you're correct on that note, but someone on also asked about the durability of stock springs, and that all to be questioned, that came straight from the manufacturer. Some people like to push the evenlope, other are just contempt with what they got.

I see, didn't know about you plans)
Good for you, because I got 7AT and there's no way I can raise my RPM to more than 8000
Will be installing my cams soon along with a bunch of other stuff.

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BBRSpeedWorks 10-27-2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Morfiy (Post 3336321)
The VVEL is dealing with only intake cams is it? So exh cams are needless of tune or changeover unless like ELMO said you are going to raise RPM

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Yes the vvel is dealing with the intake side...always tune always...as far as changeover I think your talking about springs. I would personally not and would not recommend to my customers to drop in a 288 cam with that small of a stock spring. Now jun said there good go for it. But i wouldn't do it my car any day of the week..that's all I'm saying..

Elmo370z 10-27-2015 08:01 PM

Ill keep my eyes peeled for this, it wont be until aometime.next year when ill have built heads and a dry sump hopefully

Morfiy 10-27-2015 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BBRSpeedWorks (Post 3336327)
Yes the vvel is dealing with the intake side...always tune always...as far as changeover I think your talking about springs. I would personally not and would not recommend to my customers to drop in a 288 cam with that small of a stock spring. Now jun said there good go for it. But i wouldn't do it my car any day of the week..that's all I'm saying..

Understand you intention, but as you know there only few companies making the springs (including you) so its kinda hard to find. Sure if the motor is going to be dropped theres a good chance to replace the springs either.
Are you selling these right now? )


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Morfiy 10-27-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3336352)
Ill keep my eyes peeled for this, it wont be until aometime.next year when ill have built heads and a dry sump hopefully

Are you going to build it on VHR or HR heads?

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Elmo370z 10-28-2015 02:28 PM

VHR. If my heads go i have a second block already to go.

DOOMMONKEY777 10-30-2015 03:00 PM

Are there titanium valves for sale, to reduce reciprocating parasite?


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