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milko002 05-26-2015 09:55 PM

Having to replace clutch with only 17500 miles :/
 
Hello,
I wanted to ask the forum about my clutch issue. I have a 2014 Nismo with 17500 miles on her. I noticed my clutch was slipping . Took the Z to dealer and was told the clutch was worn and needed to be replaced. I don't ride the Z hard and I don't ride the clutch. For the clutch to need to be replaced seems odd to me. They quoted me 1952.00 to replace the clutch or 3000.00 if I also needed a new fly wheel . If I put the Z in 3rd and let go of the clutch it stalls . I don't think the clutch could be that bad that it needs all this work . Looking for your guys opinion.

Thanks

need4speed255 05-26-2015 10:22 PM

It's hard to believe that you need a new clutch at such low mileage and how you say it has been driven. If you put the trans in a high gear such as 4th, 5th, or 6th, and floor it, does the engine rev faster than the car accelerates? That would be a slipping clutch and a sign that it is time to replace. Another problem could be oil on the clutch disc from a leaky slave cylinder. How does the bell housing look? Any oil leaking in there?

milko002 05-26-2015 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by need4speed255 (Post 3209926)
It's hard to believe that you need a new clutch at such low mileage and how you say it has been driven. If you put the trans in a high gear such as 4th, 5th, or 6th, and floor it, does the engine rev faster than the car accelerates? That would be a slipping clutch and a sign that it is time to replace. Another problem could be oil on the clutch disc from a leaky slave cylinder. How does the bell housing look? Any oil leaking in there?

If I floor it in 4th gear the car takes off with no problem. It only seems like it happens in 1st and 2nd gear. I did not see any leaks and the fluids are full. I think the dealer is trying to rip me off. All service tech did was take the car for a drive and said the clutch was bad when he came back.

Spooler 05-27-2015 12:00 AM

That doesn't sound right. First and second will mostly be fine. If a clutch is slipping it will be in the high gears first. Floor it in 5th and 6th. If it revs up and does not gain speed, then your clutch it toast. If not, then it is OK.

RayMaN 05-27-2015 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by milko002 (Post 3209965)
If I floor it in 4th gear the car takes off with no problem. It only seems like it happens in 1st and 2nd gear. I did not see any leaks and the fluids are full. I think the dealer is trying to rip me off. All service tech did was take the car for a drive and said the clutch was bad when he came back.

Can you describe what it does that makes you think it's the clutch?

TerribleONE 05-27-2015 09:58 AM

Sounds fishy. Did they visually inspect the clutch?

BC416 05-27-2015 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by milko002 (Post 3209916)
Hello,
I wanted to ask the forum about my clutch issue. I have a 2014 Nismo with 17500 miles on her. I noticed my clutch was slipping . Took the Z to dealer and was told the clutch was worn and needed to be replaced. I don't ride the Z hard and I don't ride the clutch. For the clutch to need to be replaced seems odd to me. They quoted me 1952.00 to replace the clutch or 3000.00 if I also needed a new fly wheel . If I put the Z in 3rd and let go of the clutch it stalls . I don't think the clutch could be that bad that it needs all this work . Looking for your guys opinion.

Thanks

Curious how you came to this conclusion? That is way too early for a clutch to be needing replacing. Like others have stated, slipping usually starts off happening in the higher gears. So if you floor it at a low RPM in 5th or 6th, the revs should go up but the car shouldn't really accelerate.

I'd get a 2nd opinion before you shell out $3k to replace something.

jwick 05-27-2015 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3210292)
Curious how you came to this conclusion? That is way too early for a clutch to be needing replacing. Like others have stated, slipping usually starts off happening in the higher gears. So if you floor it at a low RPM in 5th or 6th, the revs should go up but the car shouldn't really accelerate.

I'd get a 2nd opinion before you shell out $3k to replace something.

:iagree:

I'd also seriously consider an aftermarket clutch/flywheel/HD CSC if you end up replacing the clutch. You can get that for $1,000-1,200 and labor on a clutch shouldn't be more than 5-6hrs of shop labor. You can save at least a grand and maybe even get it for half of what the dealer is quoting you.

eastwest2300 05-27-2015 11:18 AM

Yup, thats what Im doing, and I only have 7800 miles on a 2010.

milko002 05-27-2015 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3210288)
Sounds fishy. Did they visually inspect the clutch?

They did not take apart the clutch. They took it for a ride and came back and told me the same thing I told them. The clutch is slipping .

Just got off the phone with Nissan USA and they told me that the clutch was NOT covered under warranty at any mileage and they are sorry that my car needs a new one. I will spend the 2000.00 and get me a non OEM clutch and be done with it . Just wanted to share my story. Hope no one has to have this happen to them .

Im trying to look at this as a postive. Now I can get a real nice clutch and the wife wont get mad for me modding the Z . :happydance:
The stock ones are a POS anyways.

Have a appointment at TF Works in Chicago to have the new one put in. Might sneak in a ARK Grip exhaust. The little lady will never know;)

PS: The 20000 mile service cost me 410.00 at the dealer. NEVER AGAIN !

milko002 05-27-2015 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3210292)
Curious how you came to this conclusion? That is way too early for a clutch to be needing replacing. Like others have stated, slipping usually starts off happening in the higher gears. So if you floor it at a low RPM in 5th or 6th, the revs should go up but the car shouldn't really accelerate.

I'd get a 2nd opinion before you shell out $3k to replace something.

TF Works quoted me 1500.00 out the door for a clutch kit . This is the last time the dealer sees this car.

jwick 05-27-2015 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by milko002 (Post 3210509)
TF Works quoted me 1500.00 out the door for a clutch kit . This is the last time the dealer sees this car.

Make sure that price includes either the ZSpeed HD CSC or Z1 CSC Elimination kit or you'll be dropping that tranny again when the CSC goes out. Three hundred extra bucks and you'll never have the CSC issue again:tup:

zae757 05-27-2015 01:06 PM

The only thing I take my car to the shop for is an oil change (just to have a running record of it in case I decide to sell)...everything else I do myself or take it to shops that aren't dealers

JARblue 05-27-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3210520)
Make sure that price includes either the ZSpeed HD CSC or Z1 CSC Elimination kit or you'll be dropping that tranny again when the CSC goes out. Three hundred extra bucks and you'll never have the CSC issue again:tup:

:iagree: :iagree:

milko002 05-27-2015 01:27 PM

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Make sure that price includes either the ZSpeed HD CSC or Z1 CSC Elimination kit or you'll be dropping that tranny again when the CSC goes out. Three hundred extra bucks and you'll never have the CSC issue again:tup:

Thanks ! I have them do the Z1 elimination kit also .

This is my drift car 50000 mile OEM clutch.

jwick 05-27-2015 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by milko002 (Post 3210587)
Thanks ! I have them do the Z1 elimination kit also .

This is my drift car 50000 mile OEM clutch.

That's cuz it has no power:stirthepot::rofl2:

My track slut is a '03 IS300 and the OEM clutch has 140k on it. Same symptom, no power

milko002 05-28-2015 02:11 PM

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That's cuz it has no power:stirthepot::rofl2:

My track slut is a '03 IS300 and the OEM clutch has 140k on it. Same symptom, no power

:iagree:

Well I just picked up the Z from the dealer and driving it to TF works. They gave me the car in worse condition that I brought it in. Now all the gears are slipping. BAD ! Also when you turn on the car for the first time you hear a whining sound coming from the engine -tranny :/ They seem kind of pissed that I didn't have them do the work. But for 2000 $3000 screw them! They had the nerve to ask me if I would bring them the aftermarket clutch kit so they can install it . I just looked at him like WTF ? Yeah right.

They told me the only way the clutch would have gone bad is by beating the Z hard . I told them does it look like I beat my Z . This is a pic 1yr after I have own it in Chicago at that. Have to do this at 17700 is bull Sh**

jwick 05-28-2015 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by milko002 (Post 3211767)
:iagree:

Well I just picked up the Z from the dealer and driving it to TF works. They gave me the car in worse condition that I brought it in. Now all the gears are slipping. BAD ! Also when you turn on the car for the first time you hear a whining sound coming from the engine -tranny :/ They seem kind of pissed that I didn't have them do the work. But for 2000 $3000 screw them! They had the nerve to ask me if I would bring them the aftermarket clutch kit so they can install it . I just looked at him like WTF ? Yeah right.

They told me the only way the clutch would have gone bad is by beating the Z hard . I told them does it look like I beat my Z . This is a pic 1yr after I have own it in Chicago at that.

Fuck the dealer. I beat all my autos hard but I maintain them well. Why have a car if you can't push it sometimes?

After 44k miles, full bolt-on NA, and lots of that spirited driving, when I pulled my OEM clutch for the turbo build it was still in perfect condition. Beat on it caused the failure my ***...Caulk another one up for the Stealership.

Good decision with aftermarket parts and shop.:tup:

eastwest2300 05-28-2015 04:36 PM

Hey Milko, I like how you did the integrated iPad install, very nice sir.

milko002 05-28-2015 04:40 PM

I took the cubbyhole out in that fabbed a floating Mountnext I ordered something called an isimple an integrated the iPad into the stock radio. You get all your audio signal be at the aux input.


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milko002 05-28-2015 04:43 PM

Sorry about my last response I was using the talk and text. I have a thread started in the audio video section which explains how I did it. The only thing I didn't add was the wiring diagram. I have to get to it many many people of been asking me for it


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milko002 05-28-2015 04:59 PM

This app works great with the iPad. Looking back at the data it looks like I was having problems with the clutch starting back in December.http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...5a7aed7492.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...a18a5d9466.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...d8f8deb3ba.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...ab5513142d.jpg



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milko002 05-28-2015 05:02 PM

I just didn't notice


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eastwest2300 05-28-2015 05:03 PM

Yeah dude, that is badass.

milko002 05-28-2015 06:11 PM

Thanks ! Everyone that has seen this setup has ask me to make one for them


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Z_ealot 05-28-2015 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by milko002 (Post 3211767)
:iagree:

Well I just picked up the Z from the dealer and driving it to TF works. They gave me the car in worse condition that I brought it in. Now all the gears are slipping. BAD ! Also when you turn on the car for the first time you hear a whining sound coming from the engine -tranny :/ They seem kind of pissed that I didn't have them do the work. But for 2000 $3000 screw them! They had the nerve to ask me if I would bring them the aftermarket clutch kit so they can install it . I just looked at him like WTF ? Yeah right.

They told me the only way the clutch would have gone bad is by beating the Z hard . I told them does it look like I beat my Z . This is a pic 1yr after I have own it in Chicago at that. Have to do this at 17700 is bull Sh**

Most likely they messed up the pilot bearing while they had it, i know most of the time when the transmission starts making a whining noise it's because the pilot bearing is on it's way out. Mine makes the same noise right now, but that's due to the idiot that had the car before me letting a rear seal leak go for to long and running the transmission with the fluid low for who knows how long. Lucky for you most of the aftermarket clutch kits come with a new pilot bearing :)

milko002 05-28-2015 08:26 PM

Now that I think about it back in December it was making the same noise but it would go away once the car heated up.


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Z_ealot 05-28-2015 09:40 PM

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Now that I think about it back in December it was making the same noise but it would go away once the car heated up.


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Same thing that mine does, once the car warms up the whining almost completely dissappears with the exception of whining when it's in gear and accelerating


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