CJM Oil Pan

nismo13807 · 05-30-2015, 05:27 PM

oh and add me to the list too!!

jwick · 05-30-2015, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

Unlikely, I think there will be more - The purpose of the pre-orders is mostly so I knew how many to produce. They are somewhat significant items for inventory and I wouldnt want to sit on 20 of them for years, and I wouldnt want to make 5 to have 10 more people ask for one a week later.

I will make a few more than the presales, and depending on how long it takes to sell those few will determine if and when another batch is made, and how many.

Cool. Then I think I'll wait until later. Got some other things I need to address before I drop $700 on a oil pan when I've already got a pan spacer for additional capacity.

phunk · 05-30-2015, 06:56 PM

Couple screen shots from CAD showing the updates discussed:

The groove for pan sealant, it wont be as deep as it appears in the pics.

The 2 areas for starting a screwdriver or other pry tool for removal.

-10 AN turbo drain adapters (optional).

Feel free to comment likes or dislikes of these changes.

phunk · 05-30-2015, 06:56 PM

Another, also one shown in black to give an idea of what that would look like.

nismo13807 · 05-30-2015, 06:58 PM

question.. i was comparing this pan vs the a.m. pan and it seems like the baffle on the a.m. sticks above the pan a inch or so..how is that compare to your baffle that is flush or a little lower then the pan itself? cause wouldnt a taller baffle trap more oil and gives it a better insurance?

phunk · 05-30-2015, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nismo13807

question.. i was comparing this pan vs the a.m. pan and it seems like the baffle on the a.m. sticks above the pan a inch or so..how is that compare to your baffle that is flush or a little lower then the pan itself? cause wouldnt a taller baffle trap more oil and gives it a better insurance?

Yes A.M had more aggressive baffling by going up taller and thus deeper sump area. Going more aggressive on the baffling like that can increase effectiveness as long as you know for certain its not getting in the way of oil circulation.

I designed my pan to accommodate a deeper top baffle that I might make in the future pending demand, interest, and time. If I build one, it will be available to anyone with this pan as a bolt-in part.

phunk · 05-30-2015, 07:14 PM

I wasnt sure how much I liked that all oil returning to the sump area from the rear of the engine had to make it through the baffle system. Thats why my top baffle plate doesnt even have rear coverage, I like the idea of that oil being able to roll right into the pickup area. But without some small cameras hiding in the pan to watch what is happening, its difficult to visualize all the circulation in your head. I figured that a conservative baffle system for some protection in rapid lateral changes would be a safer approach than trying to manage and control every last drop of oil in a basic wet sump system.

GaleForce · 05-30-2015, 07:34 PM

Looks like I know what I'm doing next winter... Oil pan upgrade, fuel system upgrade, the next thing phunk makes upgrade...

After all the modding I did this year, Mrs.Force is going to sh!t a brick when she finds out I already started this winters mod list. We don't even have the car back from SoCal yet

Spooler · 05-30-2015, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

I dont think we will do that, for a few reasons. By the time the part is back from anodizing, the CNC will have been setup for other parts, so it would take a few hours start to finish to do it. Also, I would have to make new fixturing the hold the pan in the CNC after anodizing as the existing fixturing would not work for that because the way it holds the pan in that position gets machined off later. Additionally there is always potential for messing up a part when setting up a new CNC operation.. in this case it would be a part that was otherwise finished and done, which means an expensive mistake. Adding to that, there is a chance of the anodizing chipping off around the edges of machining leaving a rough edge.

Nismo Red for me then. I will pay the extra coin. Shoot me a PM and let me know when/where to make my deposit.

DOOMMONKEY777 · 05-30-2015, 09:22 PM

I see a problem with your design, it looks like the oil return from the turbos (the adapters on the side) is pointing straight at the check valves, the oil stream will hit it and keep it open making ur design useless.

I could be wrong.

Mike · 05-30-2015, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

List updated, looks like we have made it past 10, so $695 it is!

Awesome. You guys are going to love the thing. Giving in and installing it to the car wont be easy when its such a nice desk/table-top piece.

maybe I need 2 then????

phunk · 05-30-2015, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777

I see a problem with your design, it looks like the oil return from the turbos (the adapters on the side) is pointing straight at the check valves, the oil stream will hit it and keep it open making ur design useless.

You mean that oil would be going through the baffles in the direction we want it to? Doesnt bother me one bit.

DOOMMONKEY777 · 05-30-2015, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

You mean that oil would be going through the baffles in the direction we want it to? Doesnt bother me one bit.

Yes, well if ur fine with it then i guess am the only one that isnt.

phunk · 05-30-2015, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Nismo Red for me then. I will pay the extra coin. Shoot me a PM and let me know when/where to make my deposit.

Just a heads up, anodizing isnt like body paint... I can have them do red, but it probably wont look like the same red as the car! We can ask for darker or lighter colors, but they wont guarantee any color matching.

Mike · 05-30-2015, 09:32 PM

if you really want the outside nismo red with bare exposed parts, I can powdercoat it wrinkle red and then you can sand the ribs back to silver. But, noone is ever going to see it.

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phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,654 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 944523	I wasnt sure how much I liked that all oil returning to the sump area from the rear of the engine had to make it through the baffle system. Thats why my top baffle plate doesnt even have rear coverage, I like the idea of that oil being able to roll right into the pickup area. But without some small cameras hiding in the pan to watch what is happening, its difficult to visualize all the circulation in your head. I figured that a conservative baffle system for some protection in rapid lateral changes would be a safer approach than trying to manage and control every last drop of oil in a basic wet sump system. FL 4Motion, GaleForce and nismo13807 like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph Last edited by phunk; 05-30-2015 at 07:42 PM.

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DOOMMONKEY777 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Crooklyn Posts: 1,008 Drives: 370Z 6psd-sport-pkg Rep Power: 20	I see a problem with your design, it looks like the oil return from the turbos (the adapters on the side) is pointing straight at the check valves, the oil stream will hit it and keep it open making ur design useless. I could be wrong. __________________ Kids don't do Drugs, Drugs are bad, so let the professional druggies do Drugs for you. 537whp/496lb/tq@8-9PSI 93 octane Last edited by DOOMMONKEY777; 05-30-2015 at 09:25 PM.

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nismo13807 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Illinois Posts: 340 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 3367	question.. i was comparing this pan vs the a.m. pan and it seems like the baffle on the a.m. sticks above the pan a inch or so..how is that compare to your baffle that is flush or a little lower then the pan itself? cause wouldnt a taller baffle trap more oil and gives it a better insurance?