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V1H 05-24-2014 09:49 AM

Thx guys. U seem to be right. 0107 and 0117 should both work with the latter featuring an aluminium cap instead of a plastic one, plus longer tubing
Unfortunately it's very difficult to get hold of the Motive kit in the U.K. or just ridiculously expensive shipping through ebay store. having found no national alternative I shall stick with pedal pumping and employ my wife for the labour :-p
Cheers!

Btw, I bled my brake system last weekend for 5hrs after which my pedal still didn't work right despite no more air coming out of the bleed valves.
The mistake I believe I made is that I only bled the front-facing bleed valves but omitted the hidden rear-facing second valves on each caliper. There must be residing more air still. Gonna redo the bleeding as soon as the weather plays along ;)

Mike 05-24-2014 07:35 PM

yes, you have to do both sides. I do outer first.

thompsontechs 08-20-2014 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2780840)
I pump it up to 30-35. Also, if you are putting fluid in the bleeder tank, make sure when you are done to unscrew the top of the bleeder from its tank BEFORE unscrewing the adapter from the master cylinder. If you do it the other way around, brake fluid will go everywhere.


I just wanted to chime in here... Mike gives good advice and I have taken a lot of it, but I went to 30 doing this and blew the seal on the reservoir... MY MC was on the way out and I replaced it after this, but just wanted to share this. Be careful exceeding recommended pressures.

JARblue 08-20-2014 09:39 AM

Random voice on the internet here...

I would not pressurize more than 15 psi. I usually do around 10-12 with no problems.

kenchan 08-20-2014 11:17 AM

yah, i personally use the extractor and suction out from the caliper side.

was never really into that pressurize reservoir with brake fluid inside thing.

thompsontechs 08-20-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2937174)
yah, i personally use the extractor and suction out from the caliper side.

was never really into that pressurize reservoir with brake fluid inside thing.

Ya, by the time I realized the pressure was dropping it was pouring into that well and it was a frick'n mess; Not to mention how caustic that crap is. If a hose or seal fails it could spray that stuff all over the place.

Nothing against Mike here, I respect his knowledge, but this did happen to me, so I felt it was proper to share here. I would hate not to say something and have someone wreck a paint job. :(

kenchan 08-20-2014 02:23 PM

yep, that is the biggest worry i have.

kenchan 08-20-2014 02:26 PM

thing about these brake service tools is that the o-rings disintegrate without much warning unless you visually check each time.

Mike 08-20-2014 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by thompsontechs (Post 2937432)
Ya, by the time I realized the pressure was dropping it was pouring into that well and it was a frick'n mess; Not to mention how caustic that crap is. If a hose or seal fails it could spray that stuff all over the place.

Nothing against Mike here, I respect his knowledge, but this did happen to me, so I felt it was proper to share here. I would hate not to say something and have someone wreck a paint job. :(

sorry to see that. Maybe I have just been fortunate to this point, but I've done it this way at least 30 times between mine and customer cars. I guess stick to 15 is probably safest. I only go to 30 so I can get 2 calipers done per pump up.

thompsontechs 08-20-2014 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2937528)
sorry to see that. Maybe I have just been fortunate to this point, but I've done it this way at least 30 times between mine and customer cars. I guess stick to 15 is probably safest. I only go to 30 so I can get 2 calipers done per pump up.

I hear ya Mike, mine might have been 1/50 or 1/100 who knows, but I just wanted to make sure everyone was a where to save them the mess and possibly some paint.

Like I said, I respect your knowledge and have used it many times from reading here, I knew you were not thinking this could happen or you would have commented on it.

Sall good buddy. :eekdance:

Z Runner 02-10-2016 08:05 AM

Can i bleed clutch with the motive bleeder after changing clutch line?
I know there is no adapter but i will make my own from OEM cap.

Chuck33079 02-10-2016 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Z Runner (Post 3409075)
Can i bleed clutch with the motive bleeder after changing clutch line?

I know there is no adapter but i will make my own from OEM cap.


It's not recommended since the master is very fragile.

Z Runner 02-10-2016 08:14 AM

Do you how do they bleed it at Nissan Service?

JARblue 02-10-2016 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Z Runner (Post 3409084)
Do you how do they bleed it at Nissan Service?

Well, I would expect they are replacing the CMC more often than not, so typically they would bench bleed it. I doubt a lot of dealers are doing SS clutch line installs.

Is it not possible to use the pedal to bleed the entire clutch hydraulic system? I've replaced my CMC several times in the past and never bothered to bench bleed it. I just gravity bleed it for a while (solo), and then a few pumps of the clutch pedal to pressurize the system (requires a helper).


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