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7sudden

05-04-2009 11:47 AM

Difference In Oil Filters

After trading in my 2008 Nissan Frontier when I bought the 370z, I was left with a couple of extra Purolator oil filters. The frontiers use #PL14610, while the 370z uses #PL14612.

The only difference appears to be that the filter for the Z is about a half an inch longer.

Would this really make much difference if used on my Z? I just hate to waste them.

dad	05-04-2009 12:06 PM

I go with the recommended one, and trash the other one.

This is a good read, if you haven't already.
Don't Use Nissan OEM Oil Filters (Long Post - Lotsa Pics) - MyG37

molamann

05-04-2009 12:14 PM

^^
I've trusted K&N for my oil filter and air filter for years now.

7sudden

05-04-2009 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 67301)

This is a good read, if you haven't already.
Don't Use Nissan OEM Oil Filters (Long Post - Lotsa Pics) - MyG37

I had heard similar comments in another forum (hence the Purolator filters as opposed to OEM)

Thanks!

Musashi

05-04-2009 01:03 PM

K&N all the way.

dad	05-04-2009 01:10 PM

I use K&N also, but I may go with this next time.
Royal Purple State-of-the-art Oil Filter

semtex

05-04-2009 01:11 PM

K&N HP-1008, or Mobil1 M1-108.

bluzman

05-04-2009 05:55 PM

I used the Nissan filter on the first change and a Bosch on the second...Castrol GTX both times.

arcticreaver

05-04-2009 07:25 PM

used K&N on my first oil change.

LiquidZ

05-04-2009 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 67332)

I use K&N also, but I may go with this next time.
Royal Purple State-of-the-art Oil Filter

I didn't know they had a filter out. I might have to give that a shot myself.

Not to mention, I will be switching to RP full synthetic in the near future :tup:

dad	05-04-2009 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 67535)

I didn't know they had a filter out. I might have to give that a shot myself.

Not to mention, I will be switching to RP full synthetic in the near future :tup:

>135I was the original poster for that filter link. I didn't know RP had their own filters. I figure, I use their oil. I might as well try their filter.

SoCal 370Z

05-04-2009 09:22 PM

Knock yourselves out guys: Royal Purple Oil Filter (including tear-down)

>135I

05-05-2009 12:09 AM

I just did my first oil change with RP and I have a thread where I am posting my opinion on the oil for the first 1000 miles its in the engine.
Though I am in Hawaii with no Pep Boys so no RP oil filter first but as soon as I move back to main land I will be using the RP oil filter.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...wait-over.html

gotawd

05-05-2009 03:33 PM

Different car but I know you guys use the same k&n filter as the sti so check this out.

Oil filter comparison, 4 top brand oil filters cut up and compared. - NASIOC

CBRich

05-05-2009 09:21 PM

From that and some of the other threads I ended up on it seems that the Amsoil Ea Oil filters using the Donaldson media are tops, though expensive. We probably shouldn't get too deep into this because that's what the bobistheoilguy forum is for. BUT, that's what I gather. Comments?

Modshack

05-08-2009 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 67301)

I go with the recommended one, and trash the other one.

This is a good read, if you haven't already.
Don't Use Nissan OEM Oil Filters (Long Post - Lotsa Pics) - MyG37

That convinced me to not use OEM (or my dealers free oil changes for life)....

scorpion90

05-08-2009 08:30 PM

Both Made by Champ

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 67332)

I use K&N also, but I may go with this next time.
Royal Purple State-of-the-art Oil Filter

K&N and Royal Purple oil filters are both made by Champ. I can't find out if they are different though. Looks like both are excellent filters.

crbn_fbr

05-09-2009 09:39 PM

When I picked up a filter and oil today from the dealer, they gave me a different filter than the one they cut open the G37 forums. They cut the 15208-65f0c, I was given a 15208-9e000. From another post on a different G35 forum, they said the 9e000 has metal endcaps. It's an older post, so they may have changed the construction. But what have they gave for you guys, if you know?

AK370Z

05-11-2009 04:19 AM

I'm going with K&N and willing to give the RP one a try once it's available in my area. I also want more feedback on the RP since it's newly released.

Oil Doc

05-22-2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 67332)

I use K&N also, but I may go with this next time.
Royal Purple State-of-the-art Oil Filter

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 68101)

Why send people to BITOG ? Let's get some oil talk going here.. I would be happy to share my 35 yrs with the group..

And yes, the AMSOIL EA Series Filters are the best you can buy but about $3.00 less than what you have quoted for the best filter on the market is a cheap price to pay. If they weren't worth it, I wouldn't keep putting them on my 350,000 mile van.

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpion90 (Post 69891)

K&N and Royal Purple oil filters are both made by Champ. I can't find out if they are different though. Looks like both are excellent filters.

Although Champ labs may be the assembly point, the filters are different. Any filter manufacturer has access to about 75 different media and various internal components. Champ also makes $1.50 quick lube filters. I know for a fact they are not the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 71103)

I'm going with K&N and willing to give the RP one a try once it's available in my area. I also want more feedback on the RP since it's newly released.

I think you may find part of your answer above..

To the OP..... I believe those filters cross to Mobil 1 M-110 for the longer and M-108 for the shorter.. They are interchangeable... The long would be an AMSOIL EAO-13, the short I would have to look up but it also fits various Kawasaki, Honda, Yamaha and Victory Motorcycles... AMSOIL M/C Filter # is EAOM-103

Doc

Oil Doc

05-22-2009 04:08 PM

Yep, just as I thought.... went and checked... The filters are interchangeable.. the Purolator 612 is a little shorter, same internal specs as the 610

AMSOIL EAO-12 is the Shorter at 2.57" and about the same as the 103 M/C Filter.. EAO-13 is the longer filter at 3.4"

Doc

CBRich

05-22-2009 04:38 PM

So Doc, pertaining to the Amsoil filter, I had decided to go with the EAO-12 without realizing I could go with the EAO-13 for increased oil capacity. Anything at all that will help with the oil temps in this Z is a good thing. I understand it's just a bit longer but what kind of capacity increase am I looking at?

P.S. Thanks for chiming in.

wstar

05-22-2009 04:38 PM

Oh my, we have a resident Oil Doc now :) If you know more than the rest of us about oil (which is quite likely), then welcome :) We have lots of threads re Nissan Ester Oil, other synthetics with and without esters and the necessity or lack thereof, engine oil temp issues, breakins, etc that could use your input.

VCuomo

05-22-2009 10:37 PM

Man, I'm glad I found this thread! The other threads regarding oil for the 370Z in the other forum areas were making my head spin!

So, here's what I'm thinking for my next oil change: Amsoil SAE 5W-30 100% Synthetic Motor Oil, and an EAO12 filter. Does that sound right, or should I go with the Amsoil Signature Series 0W-30 100% Synthetic Motor Oil?

And, at what mileage should I do the first oil change on my new 370Z? Seems like most people do it between 1500 - 2000 miles instead of the 3750 that the Service Manual says.

Thanks!

CBRich

05-23-2009 05:24 AM

Early oil changes have shown some insolubles and particles so changing around 1000 probably isn't a bad idea. A lot of people also think running a little longer with a dino oil to let the piston rings fully seat is a good idea. I haven't seen this proven one way or the other but it couldn't hurt to play it safe.

My plan is to change at 1000 with Nissan Ester Oil and the Amsoil filter. After that I will change around 4000 with Amsoil full synthetic and Amsoil filter. That's just my plan. Playing it a bit safe with the piston ring seating and then going top quality from there.

Oil Doc

05-24-2009 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 76964)

EAO-12 vs: EAO-13... You are less than a 1/10th of a qt and probably closer to less than 2 ounces as the filter media is taking that extra space up. I would take a look at either the AMSOIL Filter Relocation Kit or if you have the room, a by-pass kit... Talk about added filtration, more oil capacity and oil cooling. If there is room, right up behind the front bumper is an Excellent spot.

I am all for early oil changes. Only the unknowing (especially at Dealers) will pass what I whileheartedly believe is a vital step.

As far as 'Break-in", it has been shown that there is very little break-in today due to modern machining and materials. That initial change interval is necessary to get machining and casting debris out of the engine.

Although Ester oils are very good (Ester is Synthetic) performance tests show that the PAO w/Esters are better performers. The Esters are necessary to polarize the oil, that is why some less expensive PAO's may not a wise choice. Additives are costly.

Ester based oils seem to attract a little more moisture than PAO's and are more expensive.

Doc

miguez

05-24-2009 07:51 AM

Welcome Doc!

Oil Doc

05-25-2009 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miguez (Post 77327)

Welcome Doc!

Thanks,

Doc

VCuomo

05-26-2009 02:15 PM

So Doc - Should I NOT make the switch to Amsoil SAE 5W-30 100% Synthetic Motor Oil at 1000 miles (it would be my first oil change)? In other words, should I stay with dino oil a little longer?

Chupacabra

05-26-2009 02:33 PM

I did my change with the royal purple filter. The g37 uses it, so what the heck, so far no problems.

LiquidZ

05-26-2009 08:56 PM

Doc,

I sent an email to Amsoil regarding their 5W-30 motor oil for automotive engines, but they are taking too long. Do you know if Amsoil 5W-30 contains esters? I would prefer to stick with esters as Nissan strongly recommends them.

Thanks.

37Z	06-09-2009 07:26 PM

Amsoil remote bypass oil filters/precharger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oil Doc (Post 76720)

At 25 Micron, there are Superior Filters on the Market..

Take a look at this Conservatively Rated 15 Micron Absolute Filter.

http://bestoil4you.com/files/g2235EAAM_EAOM.pdf

No Other filter will do the job as well.

Why send people to BITOG ? Let's get some oil talk going here.. I would be happy to share my 35 yrs with the group..

And yes, the AMSOIL EA Series Filters are the best you can buy but about $3.00 less than what you have quoted for the best filter on the market is a cheap price to pay. If they weren't worth it, I wouldn't keep putting them on my 350,000 mile van.

Although Champ labs may be the assembly point, the filters are different. Any filter manufacturer has access to about 75 different media and various internal components. Champ also makes $1.50 quick lube filters. I know for a fact they are not the same.

I think you may find part of your answer above..

To the OP..... I believe those filters cross to Mobil 1 M-110 for the longer and M-108 for the shorter.. They are interchangeable... The long would be an AMSOIL EAO-13, the short I would have to look up but it also fits various Kawasaki, Honda, Yamaha and Victory Motorcycles... AMSOIL M/C Filter # is EAOM-103

Doc

Any thoughts on 370Z installation location for a Amsoil remote bypass oil filter with precharger with/witout an oil cooler (Seatrab oil cooler p/n no. 50-625-7612). Is it best to tap into oil system via a Mocal sandwich plate or oil with a oil pan spacer (AAM I believe manufactures one for the 370Z)? Would this create drop the oil pressure below 370Z specs?

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