Nissan 370Z Forum

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)
-   DIY Section (Do-It-Yourself) (http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-do-yourself/)
-   -   Impact Wrench Recommendations (http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-do-yourself/22595-impact-wrench-recommendations.html)

daleks 07-25-2010 02:05 PM

Impact Wrench Recommendations
 
For those of you that have home shops with an impact wrench, what CFM and torque ratings do you recommend? I just bought a compressor with a 3.2CFM @ 90PSI rating for interior trim work, but am now tempted to get something that would be usable with an impact wrench for working on the car. It looks like that at 3CFM the tools provide ~200 ft/lbs of torque.

And, yes, I realize that I should be careful with an impact wrench. This would mostly be for taking things off or doing an initial tightening. A torque wrench would be used to bring things into final spec.

m4a1mustang 07-25-2010 02:17 PM

Look into electric impact wrenches if you don't really want to replace your compressor. I have a Kobalt electric and am very happy with it.

kenchan 07-25-2010 02:50 PM

for smaller work the cordless dewalts work wonderfully. :p

daleks 07-25-2010 04:29 PM

I have a Makita impact driver that I can use for the smaller stuff. Also, I was looking at the pneumatic ones since the unit is smaller and you can get it into tighter spots without having to resort to an extension. I'll take a look at how big the other electrics are though.

m4a1mustang 07-25-2010 04:33 PM

The one downside to the Kobalt certainly is the size. It's a big gun. The Dewalt one that was at Lowe's is a good bit smaller (though about $50 more ).

cotizi 07-25-2010 05:02 PM

when i was installing my suspension i got the best I could find at Home Depot (Husky) for my air compressor, and right off the bat, even after being oiled, it was leaking and couldn't move the suspension bolt holding the shock in place. I then returned it, went to sears, and got a nice Ingersoll Rand impact driver, and i never looked back. The thing is a beast. Be weary of the marketed numbers, the one at home depot was supposedly a 600ft lbs driver, that couldn't move a supposedly 90 ft-lbs bolt. My 550 ft-lbs IR impact has conquered everything i've thrown at it so far, and its quiet to boot.

spearfish25 07-25-2010 09:42 PM

I've become a big fan of McMaster Carr. They sell just about ANYTHING you could ever want with respect to tools, fittings, fasteners, bolts, taps, etc etc etc. Excellent quality too. Hell, they just saved my butt when I picked up a 1 1/16" crowfoot wrench this weekend. And I may be getting a 7/8"-14 tap to fix a fitting...good luck finding those at Home Depot, Sears, or Lowes :)

axio 08-06-2010 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cotizi (Post 643921)
when i was installing my suspension i got the best I could find at Home Depot (Husky) for my air compressor, and right off the bat, even after being oiled, it was leaking and couldn't move the suspension bolt holding the shock in place. I then returned it, went to sears, and got a nice Ingersoll Rand impact driver, and i never looked back. The thing is a beast. Be weary of the marketed numbers, the one at home depot was supposedly a 600ft lbs driver, that couldn't move a supposedly 90 ft-lbs bolt. My 550 ft-lbs IR impact has conquered everything i've thrown at it so far, and its quiet to boot.


That sucks. Maybe yours was an unlucky random bad one... I bought a $100 Husky that has served me well... took off a few stubborn crank pulley bolts off a few Hondas that my big giant DeWalt electric impact could not take off.

But since you have an Ingersoll Rand, even nicer! :tup:

Jeffblue 08-06-2010 01:01 PM

from looking at the electric impact wrenches, online, i can't seen to find how to change the torque setting. where is this setting located on the dewalt/kobalt

axio 08-06-2010 01:15 PM

On my DeWalt, i didn't think there was one...

Jeffblue 08-06-2010 02:30 PM

thats weird. How do you make sure you don't overtorque something?

daleks 08-06-2010 02:44 PM

You can use torque sticks or estimate the torque by a graph that's usually available in a manual. It shows time vs. applied torque. So you can just tap it for a second or so. It's far from accurate however.

Ideally though you'd use an impact wrench for removal and a torque wrench for tightening. With a torque wrench you can set it to the desired ft/lbs and just rotate until it clicks.

That said, most people just zap it with the impact wrench and call it a day.

Jeffblue 08-06-2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daleks (Post 662408)
You can use torque sticks or estimate the torque by a graph that's usually available in a manual. It shows time vs. applied torque. So you can just tap it for a second or so. It's far from accurate however.

Ideally though you'd use an impact wrench for removal and a torque wrench for tightening. With a torque wrench you can set it to the desired ft/lbs and just rotate until it clicks.

That said, most people just zap it with the impact wrench and call it a day.

yea, i have a torque wrench. I guess i could just use that for the final tightening

jpmotor 08-06-2010 03:16 PM

Harbor Freight had some electric Impact Gun on sale for ~$50
Rated at 240 ft/lb

Mike 08-06-2010 03:27 PM

FYI, I bought an electric DeWalt at Lowe's last week for 299. It comes with 2 18v batteries, but they are having a special where you get a 3rd battery for free. The batteries are 89 each, so its quite a deal.

wishihadnav 08-06-2010 03:34 PM

not a big fan of electric guns..not enough torque imo...most shop guys i know prefer the IR's..

Mike 08-06-2010 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 662518)
not a big fan of electric guns..not enough torque imo...most shop guys i know prefer the IR's..

I've got an air one too, but the electric is awesome trackside for tire swaps.

daleks 08-06-2010 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 662518)
not a big fan of electric guns..not enough torque imo...most shop guys i know prefer the IR's..

The electric ones are obviously going to be larger than the pneumatic ones. However, what bolts require >150 ft/lbs of torque on the Z? Prior to purchasing my Makita (rated at 260 ft/lbs) I didn't find anything above that number in the manual. I did just check bolt specs for the CBE, suspension, wheels, and anything related to front-end work (front strut tower, end links, mass dampener, etc.).

jpmotor 08-06-2010 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daleks (Post 662530)
The electric ones are obviously going to be larger than the pneumatic ones. However, what bolts require >150 ft/lbs of torque on the Z? Prior to purchasing my Makita (rated at 260 ft/lbs) I didn't find anything above that number in the manual. I did just check bolt specs for the CBE, suspension, wheels, and anything related to front-end work (front strut tower, end links, mass dampener, etc.).

You do know you need more torque to take something off vs putting it back on right?

taking off the strut would probably require quiet a bit of force

axio 08-06-2010 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daleks (Post 662408)
You can use torque sticks or estimate the torque by a graph that's usually available in a manual. It shows time vs. applied torque. So you can just tap it for a second or so. It's far from accurate however.

Ideally though you'd use an impact wrench for removal and a torque wrench for tightening. With a torque wrench you can set it to the desired ft/lbs and just rotate until it clicks.

That said, most people just zap it with the impact wrench and call it a day.

Agreed. I usually use the impact if there's a stubborn nut/bolt, but for the tightening, just a normal wrench and then tighten to spec with the appropriate torque wrench.

daleks 08-06-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpmotor (Post 662558)
You do know you need more torque to take something off vs putting it back on right?

taking off the strut would probably require quiet a bit of force

Fair enough. My comment was aimed at questioning the upper bound of how much torque you need for an impact wrench. If a bolt is rated at 150 ft/lbs, then having 2x that amount on the tool seams reasonable.

spearfish25 08-06-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daleks (Post 662705)
Fair enough. My comment was aimed at questioning the upper bound of how much torque you need for an impact wrench. If a bolt is rated at 150 ft/lbs, then having 2x that amount on the tool seams reasonable.

If an electric impact wrench won't cut it, that's why they make $20 breaker bars.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:29 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2