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Nick@Adams 01-22-2014 01:11 PM

Check our these two videos, they explain, in detail, how a Waterless Wash works and how to properly use it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwS1PF-6Zbw

You'll get the basics from that, but we've actually discontinued our Waterless Wash and now offer a Rinseless Wash Concentrate that can be used as shown below, as well as diluted with water into a "Waterless Wash" spray you can use.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl7Tej4AA5c

kenchan 01-22-2014 01:53 PM

notice that the porsche is not caked in salt... :ugh:

there is a limit. just wash your dd with water and soap when you get a chance.

i only use waterless wash in the summer time after driving through a puddle or something minor.
getting rained on at the office while the car was clean, etc.

Nick@Adams 01-22-2014 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2662414)
notice that the porsche is not caked in salt... :ugh:

there is a limit. just wash your dd with water and soap when you get a chance.

i only use waterless wash in the summer time after driving through a puddle or something minor.
getting rained on at the office while the car was clean, etc.

Very much so!

Always best to hit a pay n' spray (or a pressure washer if you ave one of those at home) to knock off the heavy contamination first before performing a waterless/rinseless wash.

Junkman2008 01-22-2014 05:16 PM

I'm still waiting to hear what color the car is. You can say what is safe for waterless washing but perception is different for everyone. I have a friend who likes fat girls. When he claims that he met this "fine little honey", I know she's gonna be fat. One man's "fine" could make another man cringe. Some people's "safe for waterless wash" causes me to....

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...eys/thud-1.gif :eek: http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...mileys/ack.gif http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...s/facepalm.gif http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...ys/leaving.gif http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...leys/nonod.gif http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...ileys/skep.gif http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...illy_nilly.gif

H2O_Doc 01-22-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 2662736)
I'm still waiting to hear what color the car is. You can say what is safe for waterless washing but perception is different for everyone. I have a friend who likes fat girls. When he claims that he met this "fine little honey", I know she's gonna be fat. One man's "fine" could make another man cringe. Some people's "safe for waterless wash" causes me to....

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...eys/thud-1.gif :eek: http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...mileys/ack.gif http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...s/facepalm.gif http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...ys/leaving.gif http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...leys/nonod.gif http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...ileys/skep.gif http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...illy_nilly.gif

Does he waterless wash his fat chicks before...well...you know?

I agree with you sentiment. Unless there is some kind of water restriction, and I ain't got bottled water as a substitute, wetter is better (extrapolate).

Junkman2008 01-22-2014 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2662762)
... wetter is better (extrapolate).

:tup:

Kqpro88 01-22-2014 06:51 PM

Hi guys, thanks for the replies. My car is black, Junkman. Currently, if there is not crazy amount of salt on my car, I waterless wash twice a week, which I think is enough.

When there is a snow storm, I will take it to the touchless and let them wash, but I dont let them dry. I drive to the closest lot and dry it myself with some Adams DS.

I am pretty careful with the towels, so I think it's ok for the winter seasons.

Junkman2008 01-22-2014 07:29 PM

(I posted this in your other thread but I will post it here also.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kqpro88 (Post 2662838)
Hi guys, thanks for the replies. My car is black, Junkman.


Perfect. :icon23:

Here's how you answer your own question. Get your camera out and using the macro function, shoot a picture of your paint so that the flash shows up in the picture. The macro function (usually denoted by a small icon of a flower), allows you to get close to your subject without the picture becoming blurry. Anything closer than 12 inches usually requires the macro function to be selected. Your picture should turn out like this.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...han2010_64.jpg

You can see what the "flash test" reveals. If you want to know if your your paint maintenance regimen is good or not, do a flash test. That will tell you the TRUTH. You won't have to take anyone's word for it, the truth will be staring you right in the face.

Here's a before and after shot I did of some paint I fixed. Notice how the flash is very big in the damaged paint and how small it is in the fixed paint. The reason the flash is so big in the damaged paint is because the flash is bouncing off the hundreds of scratches in the paint. This is what I call "light scatter". In the fixed paint, there is no damage for the flash to bounce off of so the light doesn't scatter. When light doesn't scatter, your paint perfectly beams the light away causing your paint to appear DEEP.

BEFORE:

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...s/slo-cut4.jpg


AFTER:

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...s/slo-cut5.jpg


Here's my car the first day that I bought it. Look at all the damage in the paint. The color looks dull and lifeless. There is no depth.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...s/new_ride.jpg


This is after I fixed it. It does NOT have one drop of wax on it in this picture:

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h.../washpics0.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h.../washpics3.jpg

See the depth? That's what damage-free paint will do for you. If you are doing anything wrong to your paint, the flash test is going to tell you volumns, especially on a black car.

So take a picture and let's see what you're staring at. At that point, I can unplug you from the Matrix and lead you to Zion. That's if you want to take the red pill. ;)

Kqpro88 01-22-2014 08:03 PM

Thanks for the reply Junkman! I will do that and let you know. I think my paint is currently okay, because I just bought my car on Dec. 31st of last year, it was brand new 2014.

I only have taken it to the touchless wash twice so far. I made a post earlier about if I should let them dry it, the answer was obviously no, so from now on, I will dry it myself.

The reason I am not washing the car myself is because it very cold outside and I don't have a garage to wash the car in at the moment. So I am doing waterless twice a week, and every other week, it is touchless without them drying it.

Once winter is gone, I will wash it myself. I watched almost all of your videos, bought the supplies, and ready to go when it is warm outside. :tup:

Junkman2008 01-22-2014 08:32 PM

Keep in mind as someone posted previously, the car is NOT clean after a touchless wash. Check out this thread for more details.

Kqpro88 01-22-2014 08:47 PM

Yes, I watched those 2 videos and it doesnt clean thoroughly. That will have to do till it's warmer so I can 2 bucket wash.

Quick question, would you recommend to air dry it after the wash (just drive home after the wash), OR bust out the microfiber towel and dry it yourself before going home from the car wash.

Junkman2008 01-22-2014 09:12 PM

I thought I made that clear in those videos. :confused:

Both choices have their downfall but the first suggestion does NOT create paint damage. If you allow the car to air dry, the drops of water remaining on the car will collect dust and dirt. Although not desirable, that dust and dirt will NOT cause scratches unless you remove them improperly. If you leave them alone, they won't do a thing but make the car look a little dirty.

If you dry the car with a towel, you are grinding the dirt that remained on the car after the touchless wash INTO the paint. That's what I call, "making sandpaper". You already know what sandpaper does to your paint so there is no question as to if you should do that or not. I discussed that in those two videos.

Everything I preach is based on one thing: common sense. No rocket science, no Sprint math or calculus 4. It's the simple advice that your grandma would have given you. Some companies like to make this stuff seam like you need a degree is washology to understand it but trust me, I could teach a 8-year old this stuff.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...lin_buffer.jpg

Kqpro88 01-22-2014 09:27 PM

Ah okay, thanks for clearing it up. I will leave the car to air dry, once it's warmer, I'll do the 2 bucket.

jaybulls 01-23-2014 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 2662988)
Keep in mind as someone posted previously, the car is NOT clean after a touchless wash. Check out this thread for more details.


heya, junkman...thx for the helpful vids and advice...in your link here to the two vids i think you briefly mentioned using (or not) the "california duster."

what would be your advice re. using on seeable, gathering vegas desert dust and pine tree pollen that sprinkles light golden patterns upon the paint? do i risk swirling/scratching?

thx,

john

shaun66 01-23-2014 04:54 PM

This makes me sad. Living in apartment next year. Black car. No garage or cover. No hose. No clean car forevaaa :icon23:


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