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mikeTO 08-01-2012 07:40 AM

Waterless Wash
 
Hey all. I've been seeing more and more waterless wash products on the market lately. I've always been a traditional two-bucket guy, but am wondering about the effectiveness and risks of these products. I'm particulary concerned with risk of scratches etc. My car is always parked indoors and is not a DD, so doesn't tend to get too dirty between washes. I'm an Adams guy down the line with my detailing products.

Have many of you used a waterless wash product and, if so, what has your experience been?

Thanks!

nepali 08-01-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeTO (Post 1848643)
Hey all. I've been seeing more and more waterless wash products on the market lately. I've always been a traditional two-bucket guy, but am wondering about the effectiveness and risks of these products. I'm particulary concerned with risk of scratches etc. My car is always parked indoors and is not a DD, so doesn't tend to get too dirty between washes. I'm an Adams guy down the line with my detailing products.

Have many of you used a waterless wash product and, if so, what has your experience been?

Thanks!

The guy who detailed my Z did use this method. It worked pretty good.

kenchan 08-01-2012 09:38 AM

i use Griot's SprayOn CarWash at times. it's a safe system given that you use the product liberally, use a lot of fresh towels wiping only one direction (vertical for me), one cycle, and use simple common sense like not dragging your soiled towel all over the paint in circular motion.

sfearl1 08-01-2012 10:25 AM

I've always been a two bucket guy myself. Lately I've been religiously dusting w/ the California Duster (properly) 1-2x a day. I'll follow-up with Zaino Z6 quick detailer (has antistatic properties that repel dust) and clean Zaino "snow white" towels in the manner Kenchan described above. So far, no micro-scratches or swirls in the clear. And I haven't washed the car in two months! To be honest, my car has never looked this good :tup:

Davey 08-01-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 1848900)
I've always been a two bucket guy myself. Lately I've been religiously dusting w/ the California Duster (properly) 1-2x a day. I'll follow-up with Zaino Z6 quick detailer (has antistatic properties that repel dust) and clean Zaino "snow white" towels in the manner Kenchan described above. So far, no micro-scratches or swirls in the clear. And I haven't washed the car in two months! To be honest, my car has never looked this good :tup:

I've considered one of those dusters because outside of dust, I could just QD the bugs off, hit the windshield with a little Windex and be good to go for quite some time since I don't really drive the car in the rain much.

Does that thing really work? I just have a hard time believing it won't scratch it.

sfearl1 08-01-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey (Post 1849107)
I've considered one of those dusters because outside of dust, I could just QD the bugs off, hit the windshield with a little Windex and be good to go for quite some time since I don't really drive the car in the rain much.

Does that thing really work? I just have a hard time believing it won't scratch it.

Believe me, I was a huge skeptic. I don't drive the car in the rain at all (if it's in the forecast I carpool), so the car is always "clean". I keep a spray bottle with a cap full of Zaino carwash and water on hand and spray down the front if I get bugs on the car. They slide right off now.

Junkman's video shows the proper way to use it. FYI, my car never has that much dust on it that the vette has in the video. Bc I'm so OCD about it, I only see a few specks at most when I use mine...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gVU4C_6wOE

w0rM 08-01-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 1848900)
I've always been a two bucket guy myself. Lately I've been religiously dusting w/ the California Duster (properly) 1-2x a day. I'll follow-up with Zaino Z6 quick detailer (has antistatic properties that repel dust) and clean Zaino "snow white" towels in the manner Kenchan described above. So far, no micro-scratches or swirls in the clear. And I haven't washed the car in two months! To be honest, my car has never looked this good :tup:

This is the exact method I use. I've had my Z for 3 months and it's never had a traditional wash. I also use the California Duster but I use Meguiars Ultimate Quick Detail.

I'm telling you, people will be asking you how you keep your car looking so good all the time. I get questions about it constantly. You should see the look on their faces when I tell them it's never been washed. lol

sfearl1 08-01-2012 01:28 PM

I get that look all the time! My detailer buddies think I'm nuts until they see the paint in person.

kenchan 08-01-2012 03:01 PM

ive yet to wash my Z this year. i only use duster and QD and dont take her out on rainy days. not worth the hassle washing and detailing afterwards for me.

there is some very minor hazing in the paint after 3yrs and i will be polishing that out when it get a tad cooler in a couple of weeks. :)

sfearl1 08-01-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1849496)
ive yet to wash my Z this year. i only use duster and QD and dont take her out on rainy days. not worth the hassle washing and detailing afterwards for me.

there is some very minor hazing in the paint after 3yrs and i will be polishing that out when it get a tad cooler in a couple of weeks. :)

Agreed. I'd rather spend 20-30 minutes a day with my car than 2-3 hours every weekend washing/detailing it.

kenchan 08-01-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 1849511)
Agreed. I'd rather spend 20-30 minutes a day with my car than 2-3 hours every weekend washing/detailing it.

:iagree:

Mr&Mrs 08-02-2012 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by w0rM (Post 1849236)
This is the exact method I use. I've had my Z for 3 months and it's never had a traditional wash. I also use the California Duster but I use Meguiars Ultimate Quick Detail.

I'm telling you, people will be asking you how you keep your car looking so good all the time. I get questions about it constantly. You should see the look on their faces when I tell them it's never been washed. lol

Same here going on 3 years only time it has seen water is the handful of times an out of nowhere Florida storm has got it. Quick Detail and semi annual wax still looks new!

HArturo319 08-02-2012 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 1849166)
Believe me, I was a huge skeptic. I don't drive the car in the rain at all (if it's in the forecast I carpool), so the car is always "clean". I keep a spray bottle with a cap full of Zaino carwash and water on hand and spray down the front if I get bugs on the car. They slide right off now.

Junkman's video shows the proper way to use it. FYI, my car never has that much dust on it that the vette has in the video. Bc I'm so OCD about it, I only see a few specks at most when I use mine...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gVU4C_6wOE

Umm I just learned boat loads. I was doing it all wrong all along. :shakes head:

jlbrenne 08-03-2012 09:29 AM

I use the quick detailer from advanced auto/auto zone and that does the trick. However, I have been using that product in a circular motion is that not correct??? Should I only wipe 1 direction???

sfearl1 08-03-2012 09:40 AM

Wiping one direction minimizes the amount of "swirling" to the clearcoat. If you were to wipe in one direction and happen to scratch the clear, it will only be visible from either side of that scratch. If you are swirling in a 360* manner, the scratch will be visible from every angle.

Ubetit 08-05-2012 07:55 AM

I use various methods depending on the level of dirt. No mater what method you use, you have to touch the paint. Your goal is to minimize the damage you cause when you touch the paint.

Part 1 - How to use a Rinseless Car Wash to wash your car - YouTube

Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmXZG...feature=relmfu

kenchan 08-05-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jlbrenne (Post 1852163)
I use the quick detailer from advanced auto/auto zone and that does the trick. However, I have been using that product in a circular motion is that not correct??? Should I only wipe 1 direction???

quick detailer does not have the same level of lubricity as the waterless washes. :)

SprayOn CarWash is literally slippery if you get any on the floor and you walk over it as if it was soapy water.

mbowler 08-06-2012 12:00 PM

I use Meguiars Ultimate Wash and Wax. I actually spray foam, spray rinse, and use a force dryer on my car, while never touching it. Then I follow-up with the MUWW to get things perfect. I'm going to be switching to Optimum No Rinse soon in hopes of eliminating the spray and dry step altogether.

Truth but told, I had Opti-Coat applied to every inch of the car when it was a few days old by my detailer (wheels inside and out, trim, EVERYTHING). I would say Opti-Coat is the secret sauce in keeping a car clean and minimizing maintenance. I will never wax the car, the clear coat has a permanent protection on it that is extremely resistant to scratches from washing and cleaning, bugs and droppings fall right off the car, and the car will always bead up like it has as fresh coat of wax.

My biggest problem with the heat lately has been water spots, but since they are on top of the Opti-Coat, they wipe right off.

mikeTO 08-25-2012 01:09 PM

Thanks for all the feedback. Went ahead and ordered the Adams Waterless Wash. Tried it out last night. I'm amazed how well it works. Very easy to use. Hd it out in the bright sun today and couldn't see any micro-scratches at all.

gy954 08-26-2012 06:13 PM

+1 for Griot's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1848814)
i use Griot's SprayOn CarWash at times. it's a safe system given that you use the product liberally, use a lot of fresh towels wiping only one direction (vertical for me), one cycle, and use simple common sense like not dragging your soiled towel all over the paint in circular motion.

I got Griot's kit, which has a gallon of the wash, a smaller spray bottle, and a bunch of micro fiber towels. Using the towels that come with the kit has given me good scratch-free results.


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