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RiCharlie 07-16-2011 02:25 PM

Orange spots on white car
 
I have a white Z and today I noticed several orange spots on it. They are about the size of a small water drop but very noticeable.. No matter how much I scrub they will not go away.. these dont seem to be any kind of bubbling or raised or indented surface.. but orange spots

Any idea of what these are and how to get rid of them?
Thanks


PS I just went out to the car and noticed a blob of something on the back..i touched it and it smeared orange.. I am wondering if the car wash i used to wash the car reacted with left over chemicals in the pail that my wife used to feed the plants? I cannot get this stain out I have tried soap, pain thinner, denatured alcohol and citrus cleaner and nothing works,,,and think I might have to have a friend buff it out.. anyone ever heard of such a thing?

Vapiano 07-16-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 1219017)
I have a white Z and today I noticed several orange spots on it. They are about the size of a small water drop but very noticeable.. No matter how much I scrub they will not go away.. these dont seem to be any kind of bubbling or raised or indented surface.. but orange spots

Any idea of what these are and how to get rid of them?
Thanks


PS I just went out to the car and noticed a blob of something on the back..i touched it and it smeared orange.. I am wondering if the car wash i used to wash the car reacted with left over chemicals in the pail that my wife used to feed the plants? I cannot get this stain out I have tried soap, pain thinner, denatured alcohol and citrus cleaner and nothing works,,,and think I might have to have a friend buff it out.. anyone ever heard of such a thing?

Check out the link below, I had some brown spots on my car that came out using a clay bar system. Very easy to do, this may solve your problem, you have contaminants covering the orange spots and that I believe is preventing you from getting to them. The clay bar will lift the contaminants and allow you to remove the orange spots. Please keep in mind that you will need to protect the clear coat by applying a few coats of wax after the clay bar.

I hope this helps, let me know how it turns out if you decide to go forward.

V.

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svmtbman 07-16-2011 03:40 PM

I had the same thing on my pearl white when I bought the car. A good clay and wax took care of it.

Guard Dad 07-16-2011 03:43 PM

Hi! How you been?

Just a guess but it sounds like bee droppings. Kind of mustard yellow-brown (could possibly vary by region of the country {different pollen might yield different colors} or type of bee) dots primarily on the top of the car. Droppings are small and round. Bee droppings can definitely discolor paint, especially light colors. I haven't had much success other than removing them as quickly as possible.

symple84 07-16-2011 03:49 PM

could be rail dust.....

Vapiano 07-16-2011 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by svmtbman (Post 1219090)
I had the same thing on my pearl white when I bought the car. A good clay and wax took care of it.

+1 :iagree:

Methodical4u 07-16-2011 11:53 PM

Get them on mine too... they wash right off for me though... mine's fly poo... seriously, if I leave the car in the garage and flys are ALWAYS in there, they leave all those little marks.

RiCharlie 07-17-2011 10:11 AM

Bee or fly dropping sounds right..sort of orange color. I will try the clay bar..

ChrisSlicks 07-17-2011 11:03 AM

I had them on mine. It showed up after using an automatic car wash (touchless) that failed to remove all the brake dust. The metallic compounds in the brake dust reacted to the wash chemicals and oxidized, sticking pretty firmly to the paint. Required a fair bit of elbow grease to clean them off.

RiCharlie 07-17-2011 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1219557)
I had them on mine. It showed up after using an automatic car wash (touchless) that failed to remove all the brake dust. The metallic compounds in the brake dust reacted to the wash chemicals and oxidized, sticking pretty firmly to the paint. Required a fair bit of elbow grease to clean them off.

How do you clean them off without scratching the paint?

ChrisSlicks 07-17-2011 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 1219574)
How do you clean them off without scratching the paint?

I rewashed the car by hand and used a clay bar.

Methodical4u 07-17-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1219620)
I rewashed the car by hand and used a clay bar.

a clay bar is a risk to not scratch the paint... many times a clay bar will leave very slight marring behind that needs to be polished out with at least a fine polish.

ChrisSlicks 07-17-2011 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1219629)
a clay bar is a risk to not scratch the paint... many times a clay bar will leave very slight marring behind that needs to be polished out with at least a fine polish.

Yep, it depends on the level of contamination. For these oxide residues it didn't seem to leave any scratches. If it did I would just follow up with some fine machine polish on the polisher.

Methodical4u 07-17-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1219684)
Yep, it depends on the level of contamination. For these oxide residues it didn't seem to leave any scratches. If it did I would just follow up with some fine machine polish on the polisher.

I think I would try an AIO with a white pad after the clay after a test spot... let it sit for 24 hours and put your favorite LSP on it... a good LSP will let those spots either hose off very easily or at the very least wash off with very little effort.

Guard Dad 07-17-2011 03:42 PM

For bee droppings just put a damp rag or sponge on the area and in just a few minutes the water will soften them and they will just wipe off.

If the dropping is allowed to stay on the car for any extended time it may discolor the paint. My son-in-law's Mustang had white strips on the top of the car and he really struggled (with little success) to remove the stains from the stripes.

RiCharlie 07-17-2011 07:46 PM

Well i used a clay bar and got no where...so I used the fine pad that I had in a scratch removal kit and with some effort that removed the mystery spots..but now I have a smudge where the spot was..I put some polish on it but am I going to need a machine polisher to correct this latest problem?

RiCharlie 07-17-2011 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1219725)
I think I would try an AIO with a white pad after the clay after a test spot... let it sit for 24 hours and put your favorite LSP on it... a good LSP will let those spots either hose off very easily or at the very least wash off with very little effort.

What is AIO and what is LSP?

Methodical4u 07-17-2011 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 1220026)
What is AIO and what is LSP?

sorry an aio (all in one) Klasse makes one... a cleaner wax is pretty much the same thing but Klasse is a sealant now a wax so it tends to last a bit longer, but a wax sometimes gives the paint a deeper look.

You may need a machine polisher, it's nice to have one anyway.. you can get a pretty inexpensive one from Griots garage.. you would only need a fine cut pad and polish to get the paint back into shape. I would go buy some cleaner wax from your local auto parts store first and see if going over it a few times by hand with a foam applicator does any good.

RiCharlie 07-18-2011 01:09 PM

I got it out and seem to have repaired the finish. Thanks to everyone that offered help and suggestions!

kenchan 07-18-2011 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1219629)
a clay bar is a risk to not scratch the paint... many times a clay bar will leave very slight marring behind that needs to be polished out with at least a fine polish.

^^ very true. i only use Griot's yellow super-soft almost 'mud' clay on my nissans after using Megiar's 'soft' clay with marring results. the paint is very soft.

make sure to wear disposable gloves when in use.


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Methodical4u 07-18-2011 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 1220717)
I got it out and seem to have repaired the finish. Thanks to everyone that offered help and suggestions!

excellent man! Oh and LSP is last step product.

Pelican170 07-28-2011 10:11 AM

Just noticed this on my car last night after washing. Couldnt not get them off with rubbing a microfiber cloth over it and it feels smooth to the touch. Still cant figure out what it is exactly since my car is garaged and typically always clean... I will try leaving a damp cloth on it to wet it and see if that can get it off, if not, clay bar time.

RiCharlie 07-28-2011 02:44 PM

Well group I finally figured it out quite by accident.
I got into my car today and drove to the gym. I noticed something on the hood but figured it would blow away.. when I came out of the gym I noticed it was still there..so I flicked it off with my fingers and there was an orange spot.. it was caused by a pine needle..

I got home and nothing would get that spot off except a light buffing and refinish..

Isnt there something that dissolves this material besides actual buffing?

But I am getting better.. i got the spot off and managed to buff the shine back into the hood..

Thanks to all ...just thought you might want to know..

Guard Dad 07-28-2011 06:37 PM

Pine Needles!

Who knew!?!

RiCharlie 07-28-2011 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1234304)
Just noticed this on my car last night after washing. Couldnt not get them off with rubbing a microfiber cloth over it and it feels smooth to the touch. Still cant figure out what it is exactly since my car is garaged and typically always clean... I will try leaving a damp cloth on it to wet it and see if that can get it off, if not, clay bar time.

Did you see my posting? Mine were caused by pine needles..

RiCharlie 07-28-2011 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guard Dad (Post 1235152)
Pine Needles!

Who knew!?!

You get a lot of pine needles in southern cal?

RiCharlie 07-31-2011 09:15 AM

HOLD ON EVERYONE.. ITS NOT PINE NEEDLES!!
I thought it was pine needles because, well, it looked like one and there are needles in my sons yard which is about fifteen miles away

Well today I was washing my car and saw a fly on it.. i brushed him away and there was a blob of something..it moved it with my finger and THERE WAS AN ORANGE SPOT.,.

so mystery solved ..now the next question is how to get rid of it without a bunch of buffing and polishing??.. that crap is hard to remove!!!

I was reading about flies and here is how its done PUT DOWN YOUR FOOD BEFORE READING THIS

Flies vomit their stomach contents on solid food. Digestive juices from the stomach start breaking the solid food into small pieces. Mixed with the stomach juices and other stuff in its stomach, the fly can now use its proboscis to drink the liquid.

How Do Flies Eat? | Science Project Ideas for Kids

so what kind of food were they eating on the car?? Maybe they carry bits of food from the garbage can nearby..

Pelican170 08-01-2011 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 1238212)
HOLD ON EVERYONE.. ITS NOT PINE NEEDLES!!
I thought it was pine needles because, well, it looked like one and there are needles in my sons yard which is about fifteen miles away

Well today I was washing my car and saw a fly on it.. i brushed him away and there was a blob of something..it moved it with my finger and THERE WAS AN ORANGE SPOT.,.

so mystery solved ..now the next question is how to get rid of it without a bunch of buffing and polishing??.. that crap is hard to remove!!!

I was reading about flies and here is how its done PUT DOWN YOUR FOOD BEFORE READING THIS

Flies vomit their stomach contents on solid food. Digestive juices from the stomach start breaking the solid food into small pieces. Mixed with the stomach juices and other stuff in its stomach, the fly can now use its proboscis to drink the liquid.

How Do Flies Eat? | Science Project Ideas for Kids

so what kind of food were they eating on the car?? Maybe they carry bits of food from the garbage can nearby..

So whats the best way to remove it, clay bar?

RiCharlie 08-02-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1239412)
So whats the best way to remove it, clay bar?

I tried a clay bar but no use.. i had to use a small buffing pad..

Guard Dad 08-02-2011 06:38 PM

I'm probably wrong but I'm still holding out for bee poop.

RiCharlie 08-03-2011 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guard Dad (Post 1242179)
I'm probably wrong but I'm still holding out for bee poop.

Well I saw a fly on the car..it flew off and left something behind..i pushed that something with my finger and it left an orange spot.. I can only conclude You dont know s***..:icon18:


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