Been married for 10 years and dont see the logic behind your statement? Please elaborate.....

Btw guys, I didn't want to make this into a pissing contest. I just wanted some advice on what to purchase being that I'm a beginner. To me, being a beginner means not to dive in heads first before testing the waters. So being economical about which kit our products I would use are apart of how I made my decision. Could i have purchased the Adams basic, starter or top of the line $1000 buck kit? Yep, and could've done so without reservation. However, I processed your advice and the advice I got from Autopia and made an informed decision. Now as I gain experience detailing my car I will step up to more advanced products. But for now I think this solution fits my needs.

I hope my post doesn't offend anyone. I just wanted everyone to back away from their keyboards before firing of another volley of posts. :tiphat:

I had confidence, reading innumerable posts online (including Adamsforums.com) that the waters had already been well-tested.

A couple of months ago, I was in the same position as you. I decided that Adam's "system" was well thought-out and quality stuff. I went that route, figuring that I was more likely to meet my expectations if I followed the advice of someone who knew more about it than me. I figured that Adam Pitale was probably as far up that scale as I could go in that regard and I elected not to try to outsmart him. Doubtless, I could have saved a few bucks by doing so, but it was probably more likely that I would have had to backtrack and buy something else to replace something that ended up not working out as I had hoped and ending up spending more money than I would have otherwise.

and later on you might purchase some adam's stuff and really like it a lot. I am getting ready to try a sealant called "liquid glass" it's been around for a long time and is supposedly a VERY hard product. I look forward to giving it a try over my FK1000.... plus it got excellent reviews.

Like I said, mix and match and you'll find the right products.

I get it. Its not tator tots but Hator tots. lol Wheres my hatorade to wash it down. You're very clever. By the way the detailing part of the forum wasnt set up just so u can push adams polishes. I don't hate adams asi have many adams products. I simply was stating there are other products out there that do the same as adams but for half the price and u shouldn't rely on one brand for all your detailing needs

By the way, Adam's is a forum sponsor. They are part of the reason the lights stay on around here and you didn't have to pay to become a member, unlike any of those other companies that you're pushing. Thus, they can push their agenda according to forum rules unlike non-sponsoring vendors. :)

You're not implying that only adams products can be talked about in the detailing section because they are a sponsor? Or we can't mention products that have worked for us if these products arent paying for advertising on this site?

Not in the slightest. I'm just stating a fact. Is it not true? As for me, I would want to support a vendor who supports the forum that shares in the passion I partake. But hey, that's just me.

Agreed:tup:

hey man, i'm all for that... I understand that you promote a company for which you work and that you like using their products... that's all cool with me and it seems like you do good work... which is always an asset to a forum such as this. I also think Phil does excellent work and he also uses some adam's products and promotes those products in order to sell them.. it's all a business and I definitely understand that.

However, when I asked you about some products you said that "you weren't familiar with them"... really Blackfire wet diamond you aren't familiar with at all? FinishKare? Pretty much every pro detailer out there has either used or is at least familiar with these 2 products... and they are 2 of the BEST sealants on the market IMO anyway... Duragloss 105 for instance is a sealant that I was referred to by a professional detailer.. I found it at my local western auto for 11.00 and it is one of the best sealants I have used as far as durability is concerned.

I'm saying I understand you have an agenda.. I just don't want to see other great products played down because adams happens to be a sponser of this site.

Well, let's get a few things straight...

I am not a pro detailer, a normal detailer, or a detailer in any way. I have NEVER detailed cars for money. I would never detail cars for a living because the pay is crap, the work is hard and I am way too old to work that hard. The only car you will ever see me completely detail is my own. Anything else and it ain't happening.

Secondly, I do not work for Adam's. I work for this guy. The pay is excellent, I get Mondays and Fridays off and I don't do anything before 11:00 AM. Sometimes, my car might get dirty when the weather is nice and I will just take the day off, wash the car and go cruising. That's the way the Junkman rolls. ;)

Last of all, I have 4 brands of products in my garage. Zaino, because it's good. Meguiar's Mirror Glaze line because it's good. 3M's professional products because I work on freshly painted cars from time to time and their products are excellent and recommended for that application (you can't just put anything on fresh paint). Last of all Adam's, because I can address 95% of what a weekend warrior will see, and it doesn't take a PhD to teach him how to use it.

So call me what you want, but a professional detailer I am not. :)

If you knew the ACTUAL truth about what you're implying you'd realize how absolutely absurd it is. Theres a lot more behind the scenes than what the supposed "experts" or wanna be insiders on some detailing sites would have you believe they know.

You said a mouthful... and how!

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Junkman is a great help to this forum as well as dylan. Im a member of the adams forum
and hang out between the two. I enjoy watching phils work on here and enjoy the knowledge that the junkman and dylan have. Both have been more than helpful to me.
I also use some zaino products but to be honest you cannot beat adam P. for honesty and for backing his products the way he does. Adam, dylan and junkman are all top notch and have a passion about what they do. The forums are a better place for having them.