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gbrettin 07-06-2011 01:41 PM

I have been taking mine to an auto car wash nearly every day. I get a monthly unlimited for 40 bucks. The car wash uses "foamy fingers" which rub the car clean, not cut up jean material . I really haven't seen issue with the Z after doing so.
For me this is the best way to keep it clean since I daily drive. It ensures the road grime, bugs, dust, and salt stays off my car. The auto wash also cleans the undercarriage too. I have seen some swirls from it but I prevent most all of that by waxing and polishing my car.

Ultimately I think it comes down to your circumstances. For me, I think it is the best option since I drive a ton (2hrs a day). I'll get some pictures up so you can see what it does. Perhaps it might be an option for others if they are in the same situation as I am.

kenchan 07-06-2011 02:00 PM

yah, most people i know think cars are to be washed at the car wash, not at home.
i dont think my wife has ever washed a car using a mitt and bucket method.

also most will probably damage the car more by using the wrong tools and techniques....and they realize washing a car takes some effort and time they dont have.

so nothing wrong with auto washes if it makes sense to them.

gbrettin 07-06-2011 02:05 PM

Ah, I do love waxing/polishing my car manually when time allows though.

Methodical4u 07-06-2011 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by moondoggy (Post 983241)
I use a regular car wash with brushes I've had zero probles Modern paint is durable and long lasting. Just keep a good coat of wax and spend the time you've been washing...:driving:
Btw my car is yellow

Moony

More often times however the auto car washes quickly strip your wax much quicker than just washing the car yourself. Then you have to go back and spend just as much time applying more wax. It's really a personal preference though, and if it works for you then keep doing what you do.

kenchan 07-06-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1206093)
More often times however the auto car washes quickly strip your wax much quicker than just washing the car yourself. Then you have to go back and spend just as much time applying more wax. It's really a personal preference though, and if it works for you then keep doing what you do.

doesn't matter. most normal people do not wax or use sealants on their cars. they dont see the point cause the car is shiny after a wash from the clearcoat.

Cmike2780 07-06-2011 03:44 PM

I think most people that take their car to a car wash don't see the imperfections the same as someone who details their car. Where most people would just let minor swirl marks and light scratches go, it would bother me everytime I see it. I drive my car about 2 hours a day if not more and not finding the time to wash it myself is no excuse. It really doesn't take all that long if you have the know how and the right tools. I mean, when I use to take my car to the car wash, it could take about 30-45 minutes to get done, plus having to drive there. I understand how some people might not have a place to wash their car, but usually its just laziness. Nothing wrong with that. Why do something when you can pay someone right.

gbrettin 07-06-2011 04:24 PM

The car wash is located next door to my work. In and out in 8min. :tiphat: I honestly don't think what I do is lazy. However, I do handwash, wax, and polish every 2-3 weeks. :excited: I find it therapeutic.

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1206216)
I think most people that take their car to a car wash don't see the imperfections the same as someone who details their car. Where most people would just let minor swirl marks and light scratches go, it would bother me everytime I see it. I drive my car about 2 hours a day if not more and not finding the time to wash it myself is no excuse. It really doesn't take all that long if you have the know how and the right tools. I mean, when I use to take my car to the car wash, it could take about 30-45 minutes to get done, plus having to drive there. I understand how some people might not have a place to wash their car, but usually its just laziness. Nothing wrong with that. Why do something when you can pay someone right.


gr8-wrx 07-06-2011 07:42 PM

I'd never put any of my vehicles (including my Frontier) through any kind of automatic car wash. Way too easy to get scratches and swirls even with brushless (can happen through those high powered streams of water).

Besides, summer is the easiest time of year to wash your car. Just take your time! :)

fuzzywuzzy 07-06-2011 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by USMCASA (Post 984202)
(he might have been extra helpful because he saw me stick my concealed carry piece in my pocket when i got out of the car)

in the end... its just a car


You give the good concealed carry civilians a bad name!

drdre8424 07-10-2011 08:46 PM

Anyone from the Buffalo, NY area use delta sonic, if so, any problems?...
i dont live in NY anymore, but just curious, i know from about nov-march u got no other choice but to use a car wash.

Methodical4u 07-13-2011 12:15 AM

Most people that wash their cars are never going to notice the damage that these type of washes do until someone pulls their car into a dark garage and puts a halogen up to it... you will then likely see A LOT of swirls, scratches, etc on the finish. IMO the best way to wash your car is to learn proper technique to wash and dry if nothing else. You don't have to become a detailing expert... just take it to someone when you want it polished and waxed.

Here are some reasons why a car wash is bad...

1. As mentioned earlier, the chemicals themselves are VERY harsh on your car's finish and IF you do have any wax on your car, chances are it will be gone after once or twice running through one of those things.
2. High pressure water can damage a car itself... but not for reasons you may think. Think about it like this... you pull your dirty car into a car wash, the high pressure starts and while it's doing it's job.. the dirt that's on your car is getting pressure washed across your paint... basically it amounts to sandblasting your finish. Many pro detailers on here use a foam gun that they just soak the car in before doing anything other than rinising it with a low pressure hose. The foam sitting on the car breaks the dirt down and a properly mixed car wash solution is very slick and basically slides off of the car on itself, minimizing marring to the paint.
3. No matter how efficent a car wash might be... particles of dirt will ALWAYS remain trapped in the "fingers" as someone put it... but no matter what type of brushes or whatever are used, it's GOING to mar your paint if only slightly. The very best way to wash a car is with 2 buckets, washing one panel at a time and then rinising your sponge, mitt, whatever your using (don't forget your grit guard in your buckets) and then drying the car with a gentle drying towel, but get most of it using an electric leaf blower first.

I know this all sounds like a lot of trouble and some people are ok with using a car wash and getting their car detailed and polished later on. Remember though that taking your car to a detailer after YOU have properly washed it for years or however long is going to cost you a lot less than a car that has been run strictly through a car wash for a year or more.

For a 3 step correction your looking at 300-500.00 vs maybe a 1 or 2 step for a few hundred less... at least that's what I would charge.

Hope some of this helps and isn't discouraging.


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