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I have search to try and find a thread that specificaly speaks about sealants. Found one that explains what and how to use them. I am looking for recommendations on what the best sealant product is. Does the dealership use a special sealant if you purchase the paint protection package? Unfortunately I live in a flight pattern for geese. They have already dotted my car once, and it is not coming out. This is why I am asking the questions about sealants. Yes, I have "spoken" to that goose.

Turfgod

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let me tell you from learning the hard way. They will try to sell you "Simoniz" at the dealer. Dont do it. It is a very inflated price. You can buy your own sealant and apply it yourself.
personally-I enjoy the line of Adam's products. The best thing about company is they will make it right if you are not satisfied with a product. Like 110% guarantee. You can join the forum over there(ggogle Adam's polish forums)-I have never felt like I asked a stupid question, they are so nice and helpful.
Dylan@Adams is the best guy-he runs daily specials and answers a lot of technical questions. Also, Junkman has made many many videos on proper techniques and he takes the time to answer questions. I highly rec these guys. You cannot go wrong!!!!:tiphat:

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also Dylan is in Southern Cali and they prob hold detail clinics somewhere near you-they are free!!!! Adam provides food and drink-he is very generous!

Thanks Dee. :)

You will get a bunch of different opinions on what is best. I offer you this. Buy a professional product and see how it works for you. There is no better opinion than what your eyes show you first hand. There are quite a few professional products on the market. I use Adam's Machine Superwax. I will not even try and say that it is the best because I have not remotely tried everything out there. But I will say that it works as advertised.

That's one man's opinion. ;)

I am looking for sealant recommendations. From what I have read wax and sealants are two different things. Plus I am wanting to know if a sealant will help reduce the possibility of damage to the clear coat or paint due to crap, or other debri.

Thankxs
Turfgod

I personally like jetseal(chemical guys) and liquid glass :hello:

Our machine superwax actually is an all polymer sealant FWIW, plus you get 10% off the top by using the code 370Z at checkout.

That being said, asking what the best sealant is really is going to just net you a bunch of opinions. Its like asking whats the best place to get a pizza... everyones going to have their own opinions.

I have had great success with adams machine superwax. Easy on and off. Dont forget to top the superwax with adams americana wax.

best sealants I've ever used are between Optimum poli seal, Wolfgang DGPS 3.0, DP sealant, Menzerna's new sealant as well. Each one is great in its own right but these have outlasted any and all of my expectations. Give one a try, just make sure you clay first and if you can polish do that as well to have the best surface for the sealants to bond to.

i read somewhere a few years back that NuFinish was the most durable sealant you can buy off-the-shelf. i dont use it but if one wants to give it a shot.

I use Zaino, it's a little expensive but I've been using it for over 5 years on all of my vehicles. Klasse AIO is also good for a quick & easy paint sealant.

You are joking about Nu-Finish, right?

Zaino doesn't have a sealant that I am aware of. Which Zaino product are you talking about specifically?

no joke, some article i read NuFinish had the longest durability vs others like NXT, Ice, etc. off-the-shelf comparison. like i mentioned above, i dont use it but worth a try if someone wants to polymer their car.

as for zaino, they are sealants. polymers are generally considered sealants. in a big divide, carnauba is wax, polymers are sealants. im surprised you dont know this. :D

I am very familiar with this and thus the question. Which Zaino product are you calling a sealant? Zaino was one of the first products I used and in talking with Sal Zaino, I don't remember him ever calling any of his products, "sealants". He always insisted that they are "polishes".

As for Nu-Finish, just as long we realize that it is on par with over the counter stuff, not the likes of some of the more professional products being mentioned here.

wow, polishes are abrasives in my mind... you guys from the 70's and 80's need to up your terminology. :D

That was the same confusion I had when I first started using Zaino. Sal's terminology had me all confused. I came to realize that his products and terminology were a little different than the industry norm. Nothing wrong with that as he has a very good product.

Does Clay Bar help fill in the "orange peel" of the Nissan paint? Or does the product just help hold the wax better?

Turfgod

clay bar, when used correctly, helps remove contaminants from the clear coat. its done before any polishing or waxing.

Not in the slightest or your wildest imagination. Claying paint leaves absolutely nothing behind on the car to "fill" anything. As a matter of fact, it REMOVES any type of filling product that may be on the car. Look at it like dish soap. It cleans the dishes and you rinse every drop of the soap off. Nothing is left behind.

The only thing that fixes orange peel is wet sanding and there is no where near enough clear coat on your car's factory paint to remotely think about doing that. I speak from experience with the Z's paint on this one.. If you want a orange peel free paint job, have your car professionally painted by a custom paint shop. Dealerships do NOT do this type of painting.

I'm with Junk on this... a few years ago you could easily get away with a wet sand on factory paint if you were careful, but as more an more manufactures migrate to water based (environmentally friendly) paints and try to maximize profits be reducing overhead (translation: use less paint per car) the paint is so thin that sanding it is a risky and often time bad idea.

I was working on a black 2010 Altima maybe a month back... when it arrived the early morning sun was really hitting hard. On the door pillars you could see THRU the pigment. No joke... it was that thin that in harsh sunlight it was almost transparent. This was a fresh off the lot car... never been buffed, sanded, or repainted... the factory paint is just that thin. In shade you couldn't tell, but in direct sun it was obvious. The owner and I were both floored.

Yah, even the Meguiar's blue (soft) left kind of a light sanding mark on my Z.
Had to polish it out. From there I only use my Griot's yellow clay (aka mud). :D super soft stuff.

man, you guys are really dead over here in this detailing forum... last post was from my like a week ago. :D

Maybe folks feel the discussion is finished?

maybe folks feel the entire detailing forum is finished?

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Seems that way doesn't it. I check here daily and lately its just completely stopped... everyones too busy actually detailing to discuss detailing :D

well i guess its better than people coming on asking if it was ok that they used Pine Sol and Steel Wool to wash their car.

LOL... it likes you've been reading some of my emails!

I disagree with you Junkman. I believe the Zaino products are sealants and just because Sal calls them polishes does not matter. Polishes do not offer protection, sealants do. Are you or Sal saying that his products just give a good shine and no protection?

I don't think JM was trying to say they weren't... he was just pointing out that old Sal has his terminology off which confuses the issue a lot.

Those not familiar with the products could easily start to confuse the products as "corrective" which they aren't (with the exception of ZPC and ZAIO).

Its semantics really, but it confuses the issue for people who might not be so well versed in detailing terminology when something that is obviously a sealant or gloss enhancer is being referred to as a polish.

Fair enough, although you would think Sal Zaino would understand and use the correct terminology.

hey! i just got back from a business trip. trying to catch up on forums this am.
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Well, I definitely wouldn't go as far as to say that Sal doesn't understand. He knows more about detailing than you and i will ever know. He has a reason for calling his products "polishes" and he even explained it to me once (it has something to do with how they are designed). However, I was too young in my detailing comprehension to understand or remember. The best way to find out why he uses the terminology that he uses is to talk to him. He makes himself very accessible.