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killerb 06-15-2019 09:26 AM

Old owner wrong touch-up paint
 
The previous owner touched up spots on the body and the paint looks completely different color grey ( mine is KAD ). Can I just re touch-up those spot again with better paint ?

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SouthArk370Z 06-15-2019 09:35 AM

Junkman2008 has a bunch of paint care videos. You can find him on this site or Youtube.

Junkman2008 06-21-2019 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by killerb (Post 3861068)
The previous owner touched up spots on the body and the paint looks completely different color grey ( mine is KAD ). Can I just re touch-up those spot again with better paint ?

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You can do that, but the problem you are going to run into is leveling. Is the previous owner's touch up job LEVEL with the panel, above or below the panel?

sshann 06-20-2020 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by killerb (Post 3861068)
The previous owner touched up spots on the body and the paint looks completely different color grey ( mine is KAD ). Can I just re touch-up those spot again with better paint ?

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U can use rubbing alcohol to remove the previous patched paint, use cotton ball with it, just go over the paint more times to remove it completely. I bought the original paint touch up pen from Nissan, but the colour looks diff, I used a tooth pick to apply it

Junkman2008 06-20-2020 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sshann (Post 3943172)
U can use rubbing alcohol to remove the previous patched paint, use cotton ball with it, just go over the paint more times to remove it completely. I bought the original paint touch up pen from Nissan, but the colour looks diff, I used a tooth pick to apply it

You CANNOT remove dried up touch up paint with rubbing alcohol. Where in the world did you hear that nonsense???

JARblue 06-21-2020 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 3943314)
You CANNOT remove dried up touch up paint with rubbing alcohol. Where in the world did you hear that nonsense???

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geeteezee 06-21-2020 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 3943314)
You CANNOT remove dried up touch up paint with rubbing alcohol. Where in the world did you hear that nonsense???

I've done it, a few days after applying. 'twas the Nissan paint stick.

Junkman2008 06-21-2020 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by geeteezee (Post 3943475)
I've done it, a few days after applying. 'twas the Nissan paint stick.

More like the Nissan lipstick pen. :wtf2:

You ain't going to remove automotive paint with rubbing alcohol. Sounds like you are a victim of one of those paint pen commercials that sell those worthless touch-up pens in the wee hours of the night. Those things are worthless crap.

Here's a scratch that I removed from a car, where they actually used REAL TOUCH-UP PAINT to fix a scratch that went all the way down the side of a car. It looked like crap so they tried to wipe the paint off. From the pictures, you can see that it looked like crap when they finished. I did this at a CAR SHOW, not in my garage. The car was the rental car that I was driving and I purposely chose that car because of that damage. A buffer, sandpaper and a compound and a polish was all that I used. No rubbing alcohol was embarrassed during this repair. :shakes head:

http://www.the370z.com/members/junkm...psd229459a.jpg

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THAT'S how you fix paint when someone who knows nothing about how to fix a scratch decides to use touch-up paint. ;)

Junkman2008 06-21-2020 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3943373)

The stuff you see online never ceases to amaze me! :confused:

redondoaveb 06-22-2020 12:01 AM

What would you do about a deep scratch that's through the clear and base coats? Is there any way to fill it in without using a filler and doing a re-paint?

Junkman2008 06-22-2020 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3943492)
What would you do about a deep scratch that's through the clear and base coats? Is there any way to fill it in without using a filler and doing a re-paint?

Yes, and it will look like total crap. If you are through the clear and into the paint, you have 3 choices.

1. Live with it. :eek:

2. Fix it as I did in the above post, keeping in mind that the repair will NOT be perfect by any stretch of the imagination but it will be a little less noticeable. I would only do this if I was planning on fixing it later but I didn't have time to do it immediately. A scratch like that would irritate the hell out of me because every time I drive the car, I could hear it screaming at me over my music. Only a real car guy would understand that. :tup:

I am going to do a video on that exact repair in the near future.

3. Have it fixed CORRECTLY, which consist of a respray. That is the ONLY way to fix that kind of damage and not have it looking like your 5-year old child did it, as is show in the pictures above. I don't know what they were thinking at the rental car place when they picked up that touch-up paint. :icon14:

Here's one I caught just before the owners almost made the same mistake at another car show. They had a beautiful Shelby Cobra that someone had leaned across and scratched with their belt buckle. They should have beat him with the car but I digress. They asked me if I had some touch-up paint and I was like, "HOLD UP! What's the issue?" They showed me the car and the scratch and I told them not to touch that car with any paint. I grabbed my stuff and headed to their booth.

http://www.the370z.com/members/junkm...fordshow18.jpg

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That paint looked like it was dipped in GLASS. I was not about to allow some hack to screw it up and it wasn't even my car. I just love cars that much, no matter who it belongs to.

geeteezee 06-22-2020 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 3943489)
More like the Nissan lipstick pen. :wtf2:

You ain't going to remove automotive paint with rubbing alcohol. Sounds like you are a victim of one of those paint pen commercials that sell those worthless touch-up pens in the wee hours of the night. Those things are worthless crap.

Like I said, it was a Nissan pen, from the dealer.
I suspect they're acrylic based lacquers which are susceptible to chemicals like isopropyl alcohol and nail polish remover, both of which are commonly used to 'knock down' paint chip repairs.

redondoaveb 06-22-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 3943500)
Yes, and it will look like total crap. If you are through the clear and into the paint, you have 3 choices.

1. Live with it. :eek:

2. Fix it as I did in the above post, keeping in mind that the repair will NOT be perfect by any stretch of the imagination but it will be a little less noticeable. I would only do this if I was planning on fixing it later but I didn't have time to do it immediately. A scratch like that would irritate the hell out of me because every time I drive the car, I could hear it screaming at me over my music. Only a real car guy would understand that. :tup:

I am going to do a video on that exact repair in the near future.

3. Have it fixed CORRECTLY, which consist of a respray. That is the ONLY way to fix that kind of damage and not have it looking like your 5-year old child did it, as is show in the pictures above. I don't know what they were thinking at the rental car place when they picked up that touch-up paint. :icon14:

Here's one I caught just before the owners almost made the same mistake at another car show. They had a beautiful Shelby Cobra that someone had leaned across and scratched with their belt buckle. They should have beat him with the car but I digress. They asked me if I had some touch-up paint and I was like, "HOLD UP! What's the issue?" They showed me the car and the scratch and I told them not to touch that car with any paint. I grabbed my stuff and headed to their booth.

http://www.the370z.com/members/junkm...fordshow18.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/junkm...fordshow19.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/junkm...fordshow20.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/junkm...fordshow21.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/junkm...fordshow22.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/junkm...fordshow23.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/junkm...fordshow24.jpg

That paint looked like it was dipped in GLASS. I was not about to allow some hack to screw it up and it wasn't even my car. I just love cars that much, no matter who it belongs to.

My scratch is on the drivers door so everytime I get in the car, I see it. It does irritate the hell out of me everytime I see it. I temporarily did fill it in the best I could with a quality base coat touch up paint so it's not real noticeable (except to me). Fortunately, it's on the door so I only have to have it re-sprayed.

Thank you for your help. By the way, that Cobra came out great, beautiful job.


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