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barncobob 11-25-2015 06:14 PM

pinnacle sealant and souverain paste wax
 
I just ordered 3oz. pinnacle souveraign paste wax, they had a Black Friday special 20% off and free shipping AND free bottle of same paint sealant

question, do u use sealant first and then the wax?
car looks great right now with Meguiars #26 only

Junkman u around to help a squid?:tiphat: car is always garaged and covered

JARblue 11-25-2015 06:52 PM

Yes. Sealant first. Then wax. Most sealants chemically bond to the paint if I'm not mistaken.

RyanWest 11-26-2015 11:21 AM

Big fan of Stay Fresh Armor Sealant!

RonRizz 11-28-2015 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanWest (Post 3355599)
Big fan of Stay Fresh Armor Sealant!

wondering why you don't become a vendor here already !!! lol j/k

RyanWest 11-29-2015 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 3356552)
wondering why you don't become a vendor here already !!! lol j/k

Ive tried! Communication with you know who is lacking. :(

Any mods are free to chime in or message me!

Its funny though. People with 100 posts can come in all day and promote products. Oh how tricky the industry is....

Madcow 12-09-2015 01:23 AM

Hey I just wanted to touch on this as there seems to be some misconceptions going around about wax, sealant, and layering them.

A sealant is essentially a synthetic wax. Wax is made of caranuba (an organic substance) and will degrade at a much faster rate than a polymer sealant will. A sealant does not, however, chemically bond to the paint (the poster may have been thinking of ceramic coatings).

There's actually an ongoing debate in the detailing community whether or not layering actually works, whether it be multiple coats of wax/sealant or any combination of the two. In my years of detailing professionally I have seen no evidence to suggest that topping a sealant with a wax actually works. Though there are some who swear otherwise.

I will say that you do retain the soft glow of a wax (which some people desire) for a few weeks after you've topped the sealant with it.

If you are still interested in doing a combination of sealant and wax though I would recommend the sealant to go on first as they are typically much more durable than a wax.

RyanWest 12-09-2015 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Madcow (Post 3363459)
Hey I just wanted to touch on this as there seems to be some misconceptions going around about wax, sealant, and layering them.

A sealant is essentially a synthetic wax. Wax is made of caranuba (an organic substance) and will degrade at a much faster rate than a polymer sealant will. A sealant does not, however, chemically bond to the paint (the poster may have been thinking of ceramic coatings).

There's actually an ongoing debate in the detailing community whether or not layering actually works, whether it be multiple coats of wax/sealant or any combination of the two. In my years of detailing professionally I have seen no evidence to suggest that topping a sealant with a wax actually works. Though there are some who swear otherwise.

I will say that you do retain the soft glow of a wax (which some people desire) for a few weeks after you've topped the sealant with it.

If you are still interested in doing a combination of sealant and wax though I would recommend the sealant to go on first as they are typically much more durable than a wax.

I can 100% tell you that Ceramic Coatings are layer able. Wax and Sealants are not as much. If you layer with wax and Sealants, you will see little to no difference. Ceramic Coatings are the newest technology when it comes to automotive protection.

Madcow 12-10-2015 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanWest (Post 3364394)
I can 100% tell you that Ceramic Coatings are layer able. Wax and Sealants are not as much. If you layer with wax and Sealants, you will see little to no difference. Ceramic Coatings are the newest technology when it comes to automotive protection.

I wasn't suggesting that ceramic coatings aren't layerable if you re-read my post. Only that sealants and waxes are not.

And I would always recommend a coating over a sealant but some people don't have the time/money.


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